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They didn't just use it sometimes, they were using it as an intentional dog whistle, that is the difference. Part of dog whistling is choosing something that, otherwise, has had no real relationship to the thing it is being used as a dog whistle for.
so they can choose anything and we just have to stop using it because its their dogwhistle now?
No, but you have to understand that it now comes with the context of being a WP dog whistle. The symbolism of the Nazis weren't anything to their ideology before hand. They had widespread use for thousands of years. Now they, especially the primary one, is all but verboten in the west, and people who use things, like the swastika, as religious symbols, even know to tread with caution using it in the west. White hoods, and robes, have been used in cultural/religious regalia forever. However, you don't use them in the US unless you consider being mistaken for a klan memeber.
Can we reclaim pepe? Probably, it was minor compared to the aforementioned things, and the creator has done a lot to kibosh the commercial use of it from right wing people. However, it was that, and that context doesn't just disappear because you don't like it.
what if they start using this as weapon to deny us things?
I mean, that already happens. This isn't a new problem.
should we just submit to it then and give up?
I didn't say, nor imply that. I am saying you have to operate within a world where this is how things are. Doesn't matter what you think is good, right, ethical, whatever, this is what is, and you have to make you decisions with this in mind.
i believe even swastika could be taken back from them somehow, though it requires more than me believe it
Maybe once the nazis are so far back in history they aren't really remembered, and people like Buddhists, become more common in the west, sure