Jiggle_Physics

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[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You say liberalism is dominant in capitalism, you say it has a wide set of mechanisms that serve it, you say everyone in a capitalist country absorb them. You do not elaborate on what those specific mechanisms are, you just say there are mechanisms. This is not a definition of liberal. This is you telling someone liberalism exists in, and is important to, capitalism.

Maybe once the nazis are so far back in history they aren't really remembered, and people like Buddhists, become more common in the west, sure

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I didn't say, nor imply that. I am saying you have to operate within a world where this is how things are. Doesn't matter what you think is good, right, ethical, whatever, this is what is, and you have to make you decisions with this in mind.

I agree, a number of the places I hang out online, and friends, use it. None of them are like that. However, when researching bigotry in culture, it will inevitably come up, and it's significance as an indicator is complicated. So, best to read the details of the data, and what they have to say about it, beyond and chart, and headline, and keep in mind that there is real reason to attach the frog to the alt-right, but it is used in many other ways.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I mean, that already happens. This isn't a new problem.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (8 children)

No, but you have to understand that it now comes with the context of being a WP dog whistle. The symbolism of the Nazis weren't anything to their ideology before hand. They had widespread use for thousands of years. Now they, especially the primary one, is all but verboten in the west, and people who use things, like the swastika, as religious symbols, even know to tread with caution using it in the west. White hoods, and robes, have been used in cultural/religious regalia forever. However, you don't use them in the US unless you consider being mistaken for a klan memeber.

Can we reclaim pepe? Probably, it was minor compared to the aforementioned things, and the creator has done a lot to kibosh the commercial use of it from right wing people. However, it was that, and that context doesn't just disappear because you don't like it.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (11 children)

They didn't just use it sometimes, they were using it as an intentional dog whistle, that is the difference. Part of dog whistling is choosing something that, otherwise, has had no real relationship to the thing it is being used as a dog whistle for.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

try 75,000 dollars

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Boston Dynamics isn't a musk company

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

No, they got the right thread. This is a 4chanism, posted in a thread, on a lemmy forum about 4chan posts.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

I didn't say it was misogyny or racism either. You made a claim with out evidence, and I told you what I have read, then asked for your counter, since you seem to have one, but now you say you don't, so you pulled it out of your ass, just like you claim I did. Pointing out white, older, men, were the big portion of those who sat out, was to point to interests outside of gaza, namely economic ones.

I am not a liberal, I am just able to recognize that most people in the US do not actually, truly, care about gaza. I can care all I want about stopping genocide, and it wont make a damned bit of difference to the greater population around me who, vocally, didn't vote for her, mostly due to economic reasons. Also, you are just projecting that it was YOUR strong conviction that made them not vote for her. Maybe, just maybe, you are out of touch with the fact that most of the US is not particularly progressive, or leftist. Doesn't matter that I want a leftist system. The dominant conviction was that she dropped the ball in reaching out to people about how she intended to make their personal struggles, better.

I also don't believe that you don't give a fuck what I believe, I see you everywhere, arguing with everyone, about this, and adjacent issues. Then, when you can't make a convincing argument, you call them liberals, claim you don't care, and run off to the next argument, about this.

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