The federated internet is not an open park where everyone hangs out together. It's a billion small spaces that link to neighbouring spaces. The idea that defederation is a problem, or that people using different webserver software is an issue, needs to be left at the door.

This isn't "Reddit but with weirdly more complex subreddit names", or "Twitter, but everyone's user name looks like an email address", but a network of a thousand independent social websites, each doing their own thing.

And that's a good thing. Expecting it to be centralized, corporate social media, only without the drive towards enshitification will make everything seem uncanny and broken. This isn't that. This is something new.

And something old.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's for perfecting illustrating what I'm describing. You think "this is it, this is the thing that's gonna allow humanity to become enlightened!". You're hung up on the product like a bunch of other people, and not looking at the consumer. Federation won't do shit to change human nature. That's it's own thing. Federation is just another social media tool in an already pretty large toolbox. You gotta teach humanity to work together, not just throw another platform at them and think that's the fix.

I never said federation was in itself bad. People keep getting hung up on that and nitpicking. Just saying that it's not the solution to humanities core problems that arise from our own instincts and behaviours. And that it won't spur any revolution. It might be a tool used by the revolution, but it, in itself, will never be the revolution. People will be the revolution.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

You think “this is it, this is the thing that’s gonna allow humanity to become enlightened!”

I don't. And don't you fucking dare put words in my mouth again. Your inability to read doesn't mean I've said what you believe. Covering your eyes and going "everyone is stupid but me" doesn't make you right. It just makes you not worth talking to.

You’re hung up on the product like a bunch of other people, and not looking at the consumer.

I'm a consumer of the product. The product that's on offer here. You, on the other hand, are hung up on how the product isn't the same as those other products over there. Trying to externalize your bullshit and put it on others, again, makes you not worth talking to.

Federation won’t do shit to change human nature.

And no one is saying it will. Stop arguing with scarecrows. They're going to outwit you.