Linux

48619 readers

1077 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.
No misinformation
No NSFW content
No hate speech, bigotry, etc

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml

nooter692@lemmy.ml

MarcellusDrum@lemmy.ml

cypherpunks@lemmy.ml

cyclohexane@lemmy.ml

d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz

102

What are your thoughts on Zen Browser becoming a lot more popular than Floorp? (api.star-history.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

60 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Right now is the best period of time yet for Firefox-based browser, especially when most alternative browsers are Chrome-based.

While there are a bunch of forks like Librewolf and Palemoon, they provide features mainly for power users like hardened privacy and tweaked user-prefs. A year ago the only fork I knew of, based on recent stable versions of Firefox and added productivity features on top was Floorp. I was very surprised at the hype and sudden popularity of Zen Browser in the past few months and have been curious why it grew so much faster than Floorp which has been around for much longer, look at the Github star graph: https://star-history.com/#zen-browser%2Fdesktop=&Date=. Zen Browser currently has 19.3K stars while Floorp has 6.1K.

Reasons I can think of are the following: heavy promotion of the browser by the devs and community on places like Reddit along with emphasizing its 'zen' philosophy, really fast development (it now has way more features than Floorp), and the Zen mods store, where you can install CSS mods.

What are your thoughts and reasons for Zen Browser becoming so popular so fast? (while its not mainstream, it did grow fast in among Firefox and power users)

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] not_amm@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I ended up liking it a lot. I don't know why or how, but it (as Flatpak) uses less RAM and CPU than native (RPM) Firefox, so I've been enjoying testing it as daily driver for basic navigation. I still use Firefox as my main browser, but Zen works fine, has good proposals and is still improving and hearing the community. Well done and well deserved

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah because Flatpak firefox is damn insecure!

Please dont use it. Firefox devs dont care. Flatpak restricts browsers from spawning "user namespace" sandboxes for filesystem isolation.

Chromium uses a fork server (zygote) and breaks when it cannot spawn these sandboxes. So developers created zypak, which allows to isolate processes using bubblewrap, the Flatpak sandbox.

Firefox just runs without a sandbox, and doesnt have a fork server, so nobody cares.

Without process isolation, you have less duplicated content. This saves space but IT IS INSECURE.

Please use a non-Flatpak Firefox version.

There is no reason why a "Zen Browser" should use less RAM than Firefox.

[–] not_amm@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't know about that, but I'm not using Firefox in flatpak, but as native (RPM). I just discovered it probably works faster because of unloading tabs, but I don't have the time to check more about its memory usage compared to Firefox.

Thanks for the info:)