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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kinda wish we had actual interoperability standards instead.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We have that, it's called ActivityPub. BlueSky wouldn't want that tho, they couldn't control the entire network then, after all.

[–] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The lack of account portability means activitypub is unsuitable for both bsky and just in general.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago

They could have also worked to implement that into ActivityPub but they still chose to reinvent the wheel

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, bluesky has a bunch of features, notably account portability, which was specifically designed into the ATProtocol.

The purpose of the ATProtocol was never to federate with Activitypub, it was to build a more feature rich and scalable “federated” protocol.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the BlueSky protocol offers tangible benefits over ActivityPub, the BlueSky protocol could become the basis for ActivityPub 2.0. I don't know much about the details, though.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The BlueSky protocol relies on central servers tho, I'm not sure if there's much that ActivityPub can take inspiration from

[–] Twoafros@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Non technical person here, I would love to hear more about how decentralized (or not decentralized) the Bluesky protocol is compared to ActivityPub

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Here is a good blogpost about it

https://taggart-tech.com/20241124-bluesky-questions-pt1/

Check out this mastodon thread and associated links

https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/113504285308484716

TL;DR Bluesky is not functionally federated nor decentralized, it is dubious if it ever will be and the layer of post sorting and moderation required to participate in Bluesky's network is extremely computationally intensive and this aspect of Bluesky is NOT open source and is a proprietary black box.

The fediverse and activity pub are the future, even if the current hype train leaving the station (..who is paying for all the free drinks on that train and why?) makes it feel otherwise in the short term.