This is woefully ignorant of reality. People are not immune to propaganda. It's noble that you think most people are rational and politically informed, but that's very clearly not the case. Rhetoric has been extensively studied and developed for literally millennia, there's a reason.

The side claiming that their side is the Messiah can only reach people who are willing to believe that narrative. It tends to be very alienating to the average voter.

80 million people voted for that.

Trump voters are all blindly devoted to their cult leader, but if we just shift a few more degrees to the right, that will win them over, somehow.

No one has suggested that. Shifting a few degrees to the right isn't supposed to win over Trump voters, it's supposed to win over moderate conservatives that don't care for Trump.

the way to do that is to demand blind devotion to our candidate while screaming that the other side is Hitler and anyone who even considers them is a fascist.

What happened to caring about The Truth over all?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

This is woefully ignorant of reality. People are not immune to propaganda. It’s noble that you think most people are rational and politically informed, but that’s very clearly not the case. Rhetoric has been extensively studied and developed for literally millennia, there’s a reason.

Of course. Which is why effective propaganda and rhetoric is generally more sophisticated than just "our side good."

80 million people voted for that.

More like 158 million.

No one has suggested that. Shifting a few degrees to the right isn’t supposed to win over Trump voters, it’s supposed to win over moderate conservatives that don’t care for Trump.

So... Trump voters.

What happened to caring about The Truth over all?

What happened to pragmatism over truth?

I don't consider it true that everyone who votes for Trump is a fascist. There are plenty of reluctant Trump voters who are primarily motivated by negative partisanship, which is to say, voting against the Democrats.