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[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

how does that compare to daily russian bombardment of civi targets?

How does that compare to Ukraine constantly shelling the donbas for the last 10 years? Denying Russian Ukrainians their pensions? Literally engaging in genocide by making use of Russian illegal and shit like that?

[–] harcesz@szmer.info -2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Have you seen pictures of Bakhmut after half a year of battle? How was anything still standing in Donbas after supposably 10 years of bombardment? This is such a deeply absurd propaganda point, how could anyone fall for that?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're arguing a thing in the past didn't happen because of 'common sense' bullshit

Why not just look it up

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

OK, fast search; US propaganda site with a good selection of satellite photos. Show me something remotly of this scale from any Kremlin or whichever you want sources for Donbas city.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Why? Your point is a red herring either way. The scale of destruction when two nation states fight a dug in war is different from a nation state suppressing a regional separatist movement? Premise granted. So?

Just let me know when we can go back to the original argument

[–] harcesz@szmer.info -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're claiming 10 years of bombardment. That should somehow show, no?

What was your original point again? Ukr massive brutal arty fires that leave no trace, they fact that... they did not pay pensions to people in territories occupied by Russia? Or the bullshit about Russian being illegal, which it is not?

Oh no, I think it was your argument that the death of two shitheads at the hands of other nationalist shitheads justifies this war, and daily civilian death from Rus arty. Sure, sounds like any reasonable argument from me could help here...

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Do you think you're a wizard or something? You can just erase history by being smug enough?

What exactly are you arguing? That the war never happened? Idiot clown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas There. One of the few times a wikipedia link actually accomplishes something.

Delete your account NATO shill

[–] harcesz@szmer.info -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Pic of the mass effects of the bombardment of Donbas city please.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

you are completely disconnected from reality

[–] harcesz@szmer.info -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Found them!

Oh no, sorry, that's Russias work few kilometers north. So what about any evidence? You guys are just a cult aren't you? You don't even have anything to use as a proof other than a lie you've heard so many times you believed it?

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

OAS are liars? They're your guys, western stooges - and even they admit there were tens of thousands of ceasefire violations with explosive ordinance against Donetsk

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 0 points 6 days ago

Told you, I'm not into your sect's lore, you have to drop a link or I've no idea what you're talking about. And still if there were thousands of rounds, it should be very clearly visible wouldn't it? Why cant any of you produce a single image that would showcase it like the one above?

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] harcesz@szmer.info -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Pull up any random picture of Donbas and Bakhmut right now and tell me if you spot a difference.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You are just now discovering the concept of linear time and causality

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 0 points 6 days ago

How does that explain your lack of visual evidence?