Also I swear the amount of small business owners I know in Singapore who agree they live there for a better life is wild if you know anything about the authoritarian lean of Singapore.

Maybe because what business owners consider "less authoritarian" is being better able to exploit your workers? I don't know how many different ways one can explain this to you

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You do.

You go around saying anyone that disagrees with you, even on minor details, is a liberal and insisting that China is a fantastic Communist state. You are setting the bar on purity with no room for disagreement ~~without~~ with taking to insults and acting poorly.

The purity is that which you are insisting in others not even on the country. I have not even called you or anyone else in here a tankie once but you insist that I did so it okays you to "react" appropriately.

And how would a local business with a single employee be thinking they could better exploit themselves? Do you not see how you aren't even cooperating in the conversation? You barge in to shout a lot and see the discourse as productive even if it's just loud nonsense.

You don't even know that I have a 10 year work visa in China and have spent a generous amount of time over there, you have no knowledge of my detainment for giving out a VPN nor do you know about my detainment in Singapore for the same thing. There is nuance and more to the world than just one thing such as workers or economics on broad scale, but it's easier for you simplify for the sake of the fantasy you wish to have.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm arguing against people saying that china isn't perfect ant isn't communist because it has billionaires, by pointing out the class character of the state and the political apparatus that regularly clamps down on the capitalists (unlike any capitalist state).

I'm also arguing against libs saying big gubmint bad bc it's too communist. China is a socialist country, I never claimed it's a perfect utopia, you just don't have any angle of attack with facts so you have to put up a fictional one you can throw your "nuanced" platitudes at.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You don't engage with the facts you don't like and only hold up the sources that prove your points. I pulled out facts about citizens self mutilating and you responded with an ad hominem claiming I was using a word that belonged to you rather than engage with the facts.
You blame others for what you are doing.

I have and others in here have been just pointing out other ways that China is not perfect but you ignore those and hold up the Harvard study you have as if it was a silver bullet to finally slay all the mean things people say about the country you apparently love, that won't love you back.

I never claimed it's a perfect utopia,

I'm arguing against people saying that china isn't perfect

You are a hypocrite. We all are but you refuse to see it.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Saying that China isn't perfect and isn't communist

What part of this was too hard to understand? I know it's not perfect, it doesn't have to be. That doesn't make it not socialist.

It's legitimacy doesn't come from being perfect, it comes from being overwhelmingly popular with its people, which you ignore while pulling your melodramatics.