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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 88 points 1 month ago (9 children)

People really dont understand how languages work. Even brother and man can be gender neutral. If you say "man, whyd you do that" thats gender neutral. Same with dude and guy.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm a man but I love when people call me babygirl or something like that

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yo, something like that, send nudes

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

Niiiiice. This is like porn in the 00s.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

don't body shame me :'//

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this the latest iteration of “tits or GTFO”? I haven’t been keeping up

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It was a dad joke and you missed it.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This. I've got a fair few trans friends, and we're all in agreement - unless it's obvious we're talking in gendered terms based on context, "dude", "man", "bro", etc are just interjections, not reference to someone's gender. And, when we are talking in gendered contexts, we tend to be pretty clear about that.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 month ago

It's really great that you have friends who are in a good enough place to not worry about that stuff.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

This is really great news to me as I am all about telling my dudes it's Wednesday!

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Idk about the rest of it but dude and guys can totally be gender neutral and i hate people that dont get that. Its such a bitchy thing to get mad about

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 14 points 1 month ago

Also queen, "James, you're such an Excel queen". I've seen this sort of use many times at my workplace. It doesn't have anything to do with gender or sexual orientation.

It's obviously more niche than "dude" but I've seen it before.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

And pussy, right?

[–] unazebra@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But like.......I think it goes beyond just gender specificity & is also an attempt to address the embedded patriarchy of our culture & language. Those interjection words being male of center as a default is something I wanna unpack, too.🤷🏽

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then let's also start using sis and girl when referring to men. BOOM EQUALITY!

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Lol Elon Musk would probably start banning all users who did this on Twitter if it gained any traction.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

As another comment said "queen" being gender neutral and coming from a word used for females originally. Also patriarchy is embedded in language but you cant really change it. Its always better to agree on a gender neutral phrase than have an infight(classic left wing moment...) and then revert to the previous gendered language because of it. We should all just speak hungarian, barely any gendered stuff in there(def not biased because its my mother tounge)

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Yes! Thank you for stating this.

[–] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Human ... man, it's a just shorter version 😉

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

No, the etymology is actually completely distinct from the gendered usage of “man.” It’s actually quite interesting.

https://www.etymologynerd.com/blog/man-vs-woman

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago

gay men call each other sis and girl all the time too, for alternatives that go in reverse

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

me@lemmy~$ man

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thats a joke right? Because youre getting downvoted, but you yourself called me bro without knowing my gender so it must be a joke or youre the most oblivious person ive ever seen.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope they're joking, otherwise they need to get back to Facebook with the rest of their ilk.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Would be a classic facebook moment. Gender neutral guy is like singular they/them. "That is not natural bla bla bla, use he/she" and then you ask them "do you know who alex is" and they respond "no, i dont know who they are" which is using singular they or just assume their gender.