These are actually interesting numbers. I do not doubt them and -0.99 pop growth per 1000 is "not great not terrible". Upon searching I stumbled upon a world bank statistic claiming that China has had a -0.1 growth rate in 2023 but I assume they are calculating per 100 and just rounded -0.99 / 1000 to -0.1 / 100.

Now there are some developed countries that did worse than China (ahem Germany, Poland, Japan - I leave Russia and Ukraine out of this since both are actively decimating their population) but there are also a lot of developed countries who did better: Australia with 2.4, Czechia with 1.8, Spain with 1.2, ...

Two numbers I also want to mention are the US with 0.5 and the EU as a whole with 0.2. So China is not far away from the West although both are still growing whilst China is still shrinking but the trend is your friend. It would interest me if migration has already been included (I'd say yes) because that usually benefits the growth rate of the US and EU (and is something both are actively fucking up as we speak thanks to conservative ultranationalists).

If you want to look through the numbers yourself: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.GROW?name_desc=false

In case I messed up the numbers or anything else lemme know - it's 5:30 am CET and I am extremely tired but the numbers sparked my interest. ^^

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 37 minutes ago

I don't see anything wrong with your numbers. China just started implementing the policies, and you wouldn't expect a huge change to happen in a single year. However, it does look like there is a measurable effect already.

China has problems just like any country, the workaholic culture is not as conductive towards having kids as some countries in Europe. The problem certainly doesn't appear to be worse than in most counties, and unlike a lot of countries the government is actually doing something about it. I still don't see why you point this as an issue that should make me dislike China.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You have this one photo, onto which you project a lifetime of cold war propaganda.

It may surprise you to learn that tank man was standing in the way of tanks leaving the square and going back to base. After climbing on to the tank and talking with the crew, he eventually left the area with some other civilians.
Video of exactly that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8zFLIftGk

The Tian’anmen Square ‘Massacre’: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie.
Columbia Journalism Review: The Myth of Tiananmen
1989 Tian'anmen Square riots
A Note on the Tiananmen Protests
Images from Tiananmen 1989 the West never shows (NSFW / CW: violence and death)
How psy-ops warriors fooled me about Tiananmen Square: a warning

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Go look up the video to find out how this ends, then go look up how it ended for people standing in front of cop cars during George Floyd protests for comparison. That's not the funny part though, the hilarious bit is that the guy was protesting the tanks leaving because he was against the color revolution you chuds were trying to run in China. Try harder shitlib.