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I don't fully understand how lemmy works completely yet. But for example I made an account at Division by zero and subscribe here to post. Is it not just a more inconvenient version of making a reddit account and being able to post practically anywhere?

Also what's the difference between making an account at one instant and just making one centralized account for the social media?

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Are you familiar with enshitification? Lots of smaller instances people can run themselves holds off the platform enshitifying.

[–] JollyTreecko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

How is that different than just making different smaller subreddits? I did notice some instances have themes, like tech or electronics. So is it that if one instance enshitifies there would be many other instances with tech related communities?

[–] sab@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

All subreddits are run by Reddit; if Reddit decides to overrun it with ads, require you to use their app, make content impossible to enjoy, or incorporate some awful AI bullshit, nobody can really do anything about it.

Over here, you are in charge of your own user experience. You're reading this content from dbzer0; I'm using an entirely different application called kbin. We have completely different user experiences, and some users might be banned on my server but not on yours (or vice versa).

Others might get different user experiences through apps or front-ends such as Old Lemmy or more experimental stuff. It's basically going to be a lot more difficult to enshittify as everybody is chosing their own experience.

As for the communities, they are indeed at the mercy of whoever runs a particular server. If the lemmy.world admins go a bit crazy, users might for example respond by jumping ship to the !fediverse community on a different server.

[–] odium@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Side note: when linking to a community you have to do !community@instance. If you do !fediverse@kbin.social, it links to kbin.social's fediverse community for everyone. If you just write !fediverse, that links to !fediverse@programming.dev for me, !fediverse@kbin.social for you and other kbin.social users, !fediverse@lemmy.world for lemmy.world users, etc.

[–] sab@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

Oops, yes - there's a bug in Kbin where links to local communities don't work properly. I kind of assumed it would appear correctly when viewed from other instances, turns out that's not the case. :)

That's pretty much it, yes.

There's no central control.

In a practical sense this creates a better experience because if an instance does something like... allow too many bots, or include ads, everyone can just block them

[–] olorin99@kbin.earth 3 points 10 months ago

Pretty much. By splitting the platform into smaller chunks (instances) you reduce the effect any one instance has on the rest of the platform. The price for this is convenience however over time people will find solutions for this.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Not subs, but the entire platform is Reddit can enshitify. More adds, no api, pushing nfts/crypto, etc.

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