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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Nothing against people who prefer meat substitutes. But I do think they should be brave and just abandon meat altogether. If you keep relying on meat substitutes, you haven't let go of meat entirely, I found it easy to get back to meat eating.

[–] Vegasimov@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You're chatting out your ass, this is like saying lesbians shouldn't use dildos in case they go back to fucking men

Complete ignorance of the thing you're talking about

[–] muddi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

That is not at all what this is like, completely ignorant metaphor

Imagine someone addicted to eating their poop. Perhaps they are reforming their ways, and for some time they take half measures like eating smelly chili. Eventually they realize their unhealthy fixation isn't really overcome by this, so they move onto food that doesn't resemble poop, like a salad maybe

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Is cursing against the rules here, or just telling you that you're ignorant?

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

So your whole point is a slippery slope fallacy. Gotcha.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing against people who prefer meat substitutes. But I do think they should be brave and just abandon meat altogether.

Looking at someone not eating meat: you should stop eating meat.

Who cares for bravery? Avoiding meat is avoiding meat. Crazy strawman.

[–] Wage_slave@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being called stupid and criticizing my decisions kept me from "being brave"

Like "You're not good enough until you are this much" bullshit. If that's the attitude, then fuck no. Why do I wanna go even further into things if y'all are assholes right off the bat. Like, no. fuck you. If it's this complicated then I am going to do what has been a life of hassle free eating. My guilt is very easily wiped away like that.

[–] jope@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m vegan and I eat plenty of fake meat. I’m vegan because I think it’s right, not because I dislike meat. Don’t listen to OP. You are good enough, and any reduction in the consumption of animal products is better than no reduction.

I went through a long period of transition before cutting out animal produce entirely, but have now been vegan for a good few years.

[–] Wage_slave@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I've been talking a bunch of shit out of annoyance. And there's a bunch of posts echoing exactly what I was complaining about.

Even getting called a liar.

This is the only reasonable or polite response I've seen. Missed one maybe?

So thanks. I really shouldn't be painting the entire lifestyle with the same brush, because well here we are.

So I'll shut up, and say thanks. And for the record, my kid still makes me get the impossible patties. She's not veg anything, so ita just cause they're good and that on its own should be good enough. Not all is lost in my removed.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I went through a long period of transition before cutting out animal produce entirely, but have now been vegan for a good few years.

This is the way. It's like a relationship: if you have to force it, it's gonna be shit.

I cut down on meat significantly in the past 3 years. I eat mostly vegetarian, fish once a week and meat every once in a while. Overall, my meat consumption decreased by about 90% which I call good enough and I don't really have the intention to change that.

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah same here. I like fake meat. I mean, if it tastes good and has no animal parts in it, it goes into my mouth. It's not that complicated.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think meat substitutes is is the major problem to worry about. In fact, perhaps they could help?

https://plantbasednews.org/opinion/do-84-vegans-and-vegetarians-give-up-diets/