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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 11 months ago (9 children)

The chance to be randomly audited would put me off from ever using it again. Specially when you know that randomly = you look brown or immigrant most of times.

[–] flumph@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago (8 children)

At Giant, I'm pretty sure it's decided by the system based on some algorithm, not the employee. The one time I was audited, we were in the store for a long time and had removed a few items from the cart after adding them.

The audit consisted of the employee scanning ten random items and confirming we had scanned them too.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Ah, yes, yes. We're not racist, it's the system! It's an algorithm! I never heard that one before. It's also a sustym that randomly checks you at the airport.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It all depends on how truly random the system is. Each checkout (or ticket, or whatever) assigned a random number between 1 and 20, with 20 meaning audit? That's non-discriminatory. But it's also not tuned for the purpose of finding shoplifters (etc).

When you start adding criteria, they are often at least correlated with discrimination. Food stamps were mentioned elsewhere. Flight history to/from a list of hostile countries for airports. The list goes on. Technically not based on things like race, but it's a paper-thin distinction in some cases.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do you know there's not someone looking at se purity cameras triggering random audits?

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then that's not random by any definition of the word. It's targeted.

It's entirely possible, even likely, that management would keep claiming that it's random when it's not. But then we're not talking about any algorithms.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

That's the point I'm making.

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