this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2025
599 points (97.5% liked)

Not The Onion

13614 readers
1046 users here now

Welcome

We're not The Onion! Not affiliated with them in any way! Not operated by them in any way! All the news here is real!

The Rules

Posts must be:

  1. Links to news stories from...
  2. ...credible sources, with...
  3. ...their original headlines, that...
  4. ...would make people who see the headline think, “That has got to be a story from The Onion, America’s Finest News Source.”

Comments must abide by the server rules for Lemmy.world and generally abstain from trollish, bigoted, or otherwise disruptive behavior that makes this community less fun for everyone.

And that’s basically it!

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

We now have a full year of data for the Cybertruck, and a strange preponderance of headlines about Cybertrucks exploding into flames, including several fatalities. That’s more than enough data to compare to the Ford Pinto, a car so notoriously combustible that it has become a watchword for corporate greed. Let’s start with the data...

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you can’t believe a PHD holder on their subject of expertise, and you won’t run your own analysis...

...When you have such low numbers of cases you need to individually review each case because the risk of bias is exorbitant.

Car fires are not common in 2025.

They seem to be more common in EVs, so if you want to make a statement on the CT youcompare it to other EV trucks and if you spot a difference, THEN you can make the case about the CT being unsafe.

Every single car built in 2025 should be safer than the Ford fucking Pinto!

Perhaps excluding 99.7% of Pinto deaths makes this conclusion slightly less valid...

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They seem to be more common in EVs, so if you want to make a statement on the CT youcompare it to other EV trucks and if you spot a difference, THEN you can make the case about the CT being unsafe.

You literally couldn't be more wrong.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/environment-energy-coordination/climate-matters/EV-less-fire-risk

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

I know people just google stuff without looking into references, but let me do it for you:

Reference: Kelly Blue Book, Study: Electric Vehicles Involved in Fewest Car Fires by Sean Tucker, January 28, 2022 Points to AutoInsuranceEZ.com which appears like the worst kind of EV slop: https://www.autoinsuranceez.com/gas-vs-electric-car-fires/?_cl=aC559XZjJUWkUEucak9lPfNY

To find the rate of car fires by vehicle type, we collected the latest data on car fires from the NTSB and calculated the rate of fires from sales data from the BTS. Take a look at what we found below.

  1. Nothing on the time frame and the specific date range of the data.
  2. NTSB DOES not collect car accident data, NTHS does...

I.e. this reference is useless and surprisingly low quality for a .gov site.

Your best data is from Sweden and that also doesn't provide rate of fatalities so this whole thing isn't settled when it comes to fires with injuries (the rate for that is about 0.6%)in ICEV dominated data: https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/research/nfpa-research/fire-statistical-reports/vehicle-fires)

I do think that EVs are safer, this is why I drive one (not a tesla...), but if an EV burns, that a huge issue. And again, drawing conclusions from 2 accidents over a year vs. 10 years of pinto data is well...not a good comparison.