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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

One of these cultures has normalised vegan and vegetarianism for centuries, the other is trying to wean a meat-obsessed population.

They are not the same thing, nor do they have the same requirements to reach their end goals

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

veganism was invented in the 1940s in Britain

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

inaccurate. Even a brief wiki would correct you on this.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

saying something doesn't make it true. alluding to the existence of evidence is not the same as presenting evidence.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

what on earth are you on about.

One of the earliest known vegans was the Arab poet al-Maʿarri, famous for his poem "I No Longer Steal From Nature". (c. 973 – c. 1057).

The first known vegan cookbook was Asenath Nicholson's Kitchen Philosophy for Vegetarians, published in 1849

These are documented historical facts. Not "saying something" which ironically appears to be the position you are claiming.

Did the modern name come about in the 40's? yes, that's the etymology of it. But you're treating that fact like the movement or ideology was formed at the same time, which is tremendously, provably wrong. It's like claiming gay people are a relatively new invention because the term "homosexual" wasn't coined until the 1890's

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

veganism is a specific philosophy, and while variations of vegetarianism predate it, veganism itself dates to the 1940s.

One of these cultures has normalised vegan and vegetarianism for centuries, the other is trying to wean a meat-obsessed population

As someone who works in a grocery store, the worst fucking people are the ones who go up to the deli counter and yell at the clerks, demanding the "bloodiest* roast beef they've got. That or the spiciest turkey, or whatever.

Dudes who's entire sense of self is invested in eating meat. Easily the most annoying kind of guy I encounter in my daily life.