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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago (11 children)

I definitely wouldn't mind soldered RAM if there's still an expansion socket. Solder in at least a reasonable minimum (16G?) and not the cheap stuff but memory that can actually use the signal integrity advantage, I may want more RAM but it's fine if it's a bit slower. You can leave out the DIMM slot but then have at least one PCIe x16 expansion slot. A free one, one in addition to the GPU slot. PCIe latency isn't stellar but on the upside, expansion boards would come with their own memory controllers, and push come to shove you can configure the faster RAM as cache / the expansion RAM as swap.

Heck, throw the memory into the CPU package. It's not like there's ever a situation where you don't need RAM.

[–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago (10 children)

All your RAM needs to be the same speed unless you want to open up a rabbit hole. All attempts at that thus far have kinda flopped. You can make very good use of such systems, but I’ve only seen it succeed with software specifically tailored for that use case (say databases or simulations).

The way I see it, RAM in the future will be on package and non-expandable. CXL might get some traction, but naah.

[–] fiddlesticks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Couldn't you just treat the socketed ram like another layer of memory effectively meaning that L1-3 are on the CPU "L4" would be soldered RAM and then L5 would be extra socketed RAM? Alternatively couldn't you just treat it like really fast swap?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Using it as cache would reduce total capacity as cache implies coherence, and treating it as ordinary swap would mean copying to main memory before you access it which is silly when you can access it directly. That is you'd want to write a couple of lines of kernel code to use it effectively but it's nowhere close to rocket science. Nowhere near as complicated as making proper use of NUMA architectures.

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