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[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 108 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fun fact, a taller, narrower can uses more aluminum!

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's definitely more surface area per volume, but a 200 vs 202 lid and a smaller hermetic seal cancels some of those losses. Sidewall is cheap aluminum wise, but you're likely right in that it's a little more aluminum. Definitely costs more to make since they do fill a little slower.

Also fuck coke, what a bunch of assholes

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The larger diameter of the original can plus the angled transition at either end probably means same surface area of aluminium. Small diameter differences make larger circumferential changes.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They do, but overall the can end (lid) is a LOT more aluminum than you expect and the whole rest of it isn't as much as you expect.

So a little less lid is worth a fair bit more sidewall in terms of weight of aluminum

[–] schnapsman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Since they apparently have the same volume, could one of you be a hero and steal one of each and weigh them?

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

If I still worked where I used to I 100% would. No cans around me now :(

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I guess I'm a bit rusty, so I am not sure at 355ml and the skinny profile if you can get a 202 end can, or have to use a 200

Hard to tell if it's sleek or slim

Edit: Actually no, that's a 200 not a 202. Look at the profile around the tab.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They look so similar hard for me to tell

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Look at the indent around the opening. On the shorter can it goes from wide to narrow at the back of the tab. It's more of a straight line on the taller can

[–] AntY@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I thought it was the other way around. The thickest part of the can is the top, followed by the bottom. The sides are much thinner. I thought the reasoning behind switching to tall and narrow cans with the same internal volume was to save on aluminium.

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

The top seems to be the same size, the old one just bulges more while the new one almost goes straight down.

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tops are pretty much standars size on all cans I'm pretty sure. So that part should be constant.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That looks like a 202 vs a 200 can end, so a "sleek" not a "slim" (red bull can is slim)

The sleek can is 355 ml and uses a 200 end.

As for which uses more aluminum.... Good question. It's probably close

[–] eating3645@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Someone should weigh both and see!

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The only real way, speculation by photo is not that great. They also could have made the metal thinner.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, I assumed constant thickness, so if that's true, you might be right.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

you could use your coke scale to confirm

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

The tops are the same on both