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How exactly do I use massgrave dev? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) by GiraffeNeckInKnot@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Woke up to my computer being updated to W11 from W10, not too happy about that. I want to use massgrave to change my window to W10 LTSC.

I am not interested in Linux.

So, I went to massgrave.dev and did the script, hit 1, etc. It just say something about permanent changed to key or whatever.

So I went download W10 LTSC iso, hit setup.exe and it asked me for product key. I entered my key, say it's not right one.

So could somebody run me step by step how to go about it? I'm not really tech savvy. I want literal step by step, telling me exactly what to do.

Thank you.

Edit: folks didn't really provide step by step here. But I managed to do it. I activiated script via powershell and hit change edition, changed it to LTSC. And then I downloaded window 10 consumer version from massgrave and run setup.exe and done. You might have to do first step shown in first part of massgrave.dev.

So my pc went from w10 to w11 (woyhouy my approval) to w11 LTSC, to w10 IoT enterprise. I'm good now.

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You need to wipe your drive and reinstall windows in order to switch to the ltsc branch.

This said, are you aware that windows 10 dies in October and any security issues (~50 discovered every month, although not all very serious) won't get patched anymore?

Better get used now to w11 or Linux rather than next year after automatically getting a ransomware and losing all your data after visiting a dodgy site

[–] GiraffeNeckInKnot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I thought LTSC have 10 years support?

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

LTSC IOT does

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee -1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Just FYI. Microsoft Windows IoT is Microsoft Windows Enterprise. They are the same thing. Saying "IOT does" as if they're not the same thing is incorrect.

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

There’s LTSC and LTSC IOT. And they’re both Enterprise. The difference is 5 years support and 10 years support.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 0 points 23 hours ago

Only if you install w10 1809 that was released in 2018. It is ancient and missing so many features that's almost using another operating system. But at least will get security updates until 2028

Otherwise they altered the deal, latest ltsc was released in 2021 with only 5 years of security updates

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

On the Enterprise channel, it does. Until 2032, IIRC. So you'll need either Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC, or Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it -2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

2032 is only for iot version that's designed for ATM and similar appliances, missing too many features to be considered a good alternative

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)
  1. IoT was not designed at all for ATMs. Windows IoT, also known as Windows embedded was designed for low power, embedded systems which in exactly zero ways describes ATMs. The banking industry has decided to use this version of Windows because it comes with the features they need with the longest support channel. That's it. IoT was not designed for ATMs.
  2. Windows IoT is Windows Enterprise. They are the same thing:

Windows IoT Enterprise is a full version of Windows Enterprise that delivers enterprise manageability and security to IoT solutions. 1

Windows Enterprise (including Windows IoT) LTSC ends mainstream support Jan 12, 2027, and security updates will continue until 2032.

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I've read somewhere that Microsoft will be charging for extended windows 10 support. And I've also read that somebody is planning a project to be able to download the windows 10 extended support patches without Microsoft. Can't remember where I read it

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when Microsoft said Win10 would be the last windows? That would have been cool.

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

Yeah it would have. Microsoft sucks 😆