Lisa is trying to sell socialism to people under the pretext of "all people work together", greater good for all mankind and other fairytales. She's just feeding them propaganda. Fuck Lisa.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Socialism is certainly the necessary path forward, I don't think that amounts to just "feeding people propaganda."

[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There's no path forward. We are not moving forward. That's just socialist progressivist belief. Some believe in Buddha, some believe in Allah, socialists believe in path forward.

And OF COURSE socialism is the only path forward according to socialism. Who would've thought.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"Forward" as in progressing in complexity of production and improving key quality of life metrics.

My name is not "Socialism," Socialism is not a living, breathing being either.

[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What's a complexity of production? Why do we want to progress in complexity of production? Shouldn't we be trying to reduce complexity? And who defines the "key quality of life metrics"? If socialists define those, then surely socialism is necessary to improve those metrics. But I guess different people can have different metrics. Catholic Church, for example, may take the percentage of people going to heaven after death as a key quality of life metric. In this case, socialism would be absolutely devastating for quality of life.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You can simplify where you can, but as technology advances it gets more complex to manufacture. You can't reasonably build a cell phone in your garage from base components.

As for quality of life metrics, things like literacy rates and life expectancies, home ownership and mortality rates. The Catholic Church should not determine this as they do not base their beliefs in known material reality.

I am fairly certain that you're a troll, though, so I don't see much point in continuing this.

[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago

You can simplify where you can, but as technology advances it gets more complex to manufacture

And according to you, socialism is necessary for further technological advances. Why? How come we managed to have technological advances without socialism for 99% of human history?

As for quality of life metrics, things like literacy rates and life expectancies, home ownership and mortality rates

So as I said, arbitrary bs socialists deem important.

The Catholic Church should not determine this as they do not base their beliefs in known material reality.

I understand that you have different gods. Catholics have Jesus and socialists have material reality. But that's just your opinion, man.

I am fairly certain that you’re a troll, though, so I don’t see much point in continuing this.

Sorry for not accepting socialist dogmas unquestionably.