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[–] piskertariot@lemmy.world 132 points 6 days ago (83 children)

Consumer grade Linux Mint is impossible to differentiate from Windows/MacOS.

Install Firefox. Install Chrome. Install Steam.

Test it out on an old laptop or computer. It's trivial. Your life will improve.

[–] LoreSoong@startrek.website 58 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

Linux definitely has a learning curve but its night and day when you actually own your device and get to decide on what software is allowed to run on your computer.

On top of the privacy, the speed of most linux distros is a huge step up from windows. Windows imo is gradually becoming obsolete in the gaming sphere. the amount of work required to properly configure and debloat a system for gaming was zero in my distro. Install gfx driver, gamemode, steam, proton GE, GOverlay, done. I play popular games such as marvel rivals and warframe at decent framerates. (my system is older).

With windows there was so much nonsense to disable that would hugely impact FPS. Sometimes disabling these things would break other features of the OS. And most of the debloat scripts to automate the process are rife with viruses and issues.

Im convinced that by enshitifying the OS it will fool users into thinking their hardware is obsolete and "cant keep up" but im running a 1070ti and a i7 from like 2018 and its still a decent system that does everything i need. until something breaks im not upgrading.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 26 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Modern Linux doesn't have a learning curve for 99% of people. My wife's 90 year old grandma picked it up with no trouble.

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If all you do is browser the web, the learning curve is a solid 0. The issue is when you want to install specific programs.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who is savvy enough to install an OS won't have any issues installing specific programs, especially since most products that people would be using have a direct download for the deb/rpm.

And if you're not tech savvy enough to install an OS, you're probably already getting someone who is savvy to do computer work for you.

But, this isn't the 2000s. Everyone knows the concept of an app store, and most mainstream distros have one featured prominently.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

The "specific program" I have trouble with is Autodesk Fusion (formerly Fusion 360). There are projects that try to run it through Wine, but there's a specific function that isn't implemented in Wine right now that Fusion relies on as part of its authentication service, so it won't log you in correctly, at least on the default Mint install. I think at least one of the relevant functions is currently in the Wine beta, so it may work again in a bit--I did manage to get it working briefly at one point, but I somehow screwed it up again subsequently. (I may just have forgotten how I launched it...I think I have two versions installed at this point, the Flatpak and the Snap install.) But even when it worked it was slow and janky in a much more severe way than when it runs natively on Windows.

The "specific program" my dad is interested in is Hesuvi, a piece of headphone virtualization software that also does equalization and crossover. At some point I identified a program I though would work on Linux as an alternative, but I would want to test that before committing to switching his computer over from Windows, and I haven't got around to that yet. Other than that he mostly uses Zoom, and I think I tested that and it worked okay in Mint, though my memory is a little weak on that too.

I dunno. Basically everyone has their own little patterns they use with their computers, and switching to Linux requires changes to those patterns. It's an adaptation. That's not to say it's not worth it--for a ton of people it probably is. But I'm not sure my aging parents can do it, and thanks to Fusion, I'm not sure I can do it either, because I just don't have a good replacement.

The other option I'm looking into is Windows IoT LTSC. That omits a LOT of the problematic bullshit.

I'll figure something out before the end of support, anyway.

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