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JD Vance says Europe should have done more to stop Iraq War (www.dw.com)

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US Vice President JD Vance has called on European states to show greater independence, urging them not to be US "vassals." He also said EU governments could have done more to oppose Washington over the Iraq War.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What really started the migration crisis was ISIS and the Syrian war, 10 years later.

You'll find that ISIS, in fact, grew out of the anti-American insurgency in Iraq. They actually weren't ISIS at first; they were Al Qaeda in Iraq.

Quite what the EU, a non-military force that primarily overlaps with NATO, was supposed to do differently there I don't know.

Divest from US weapons would've been one simple way to make America reconsider their crusade in Iraq.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes. I specifically mentioned ISIS came from American misrule in Iraq. The people aligned with ISIS were on America's side during the Iraq war.

I can picture the pitch to an EU that has just accepted a massive long term project of trying to lift Eastern Europe out of post-Soviet destitution. OK bro, divest bro because obviously the techbros are going to turn America fascist once the boomers implode the world economy in a few years. Just do it bro. Match American military spending bro. You need it bro.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 6 days ago

The people aligned with ISIS were on America's side during the Iraq war.

What people? From what I've understood Al Qaeda in Iraq's predecessor organization was attacking US troops basically right after the invasion.

OK bro, divest bro because obviously the techbros are going to turn America fascist once the boomers implode the world economy in a few years. Just do it bro. Match American military spending bro. You need it bro.

I didn't say that. I said: Threaten to divest from US weapons if America invades Iraq, because it's a morally reprehensible illegal war and because it was predictably going to create a massive refugee crisis right in Europe's backyard.