this post was submitted on 11 Dec 2023
450 points (88.9% liked)
Memes
45727 readers
809 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Wait til you see Public companies.
Or worse, communism.
I would have thought most people who hate private companies would be pretty keen for communism
The difference being reality and utopian fantasy.
It's like people who say equality is best today despite the very real and present need for equity.
They're very real and perfectly fine concepts on paper. But it's a massive difference between how it translates to reality on paper and how it actually manifests when filtered through the human condition.
Kinda like Libertarianism. Trickle down economics. Live and let live. Personal freedoms. Communism.
Turns out reality isn't so easily fit in such neat little boxes to cover the gamut of how every human acts and reacts.
I in fact, hate both
Same
I don’t get why so many people on Lemmy are straight-up communists. I’m left-leaning myself, but actual communism has always ended in a totalitarian dictatorship. Literally 1984
there are no examples of "actual" communism.
so you don't know what you are talking about.
and this is is not some no true Scots an argument, if you look at how they worked the proletariat didn't control the means of production, what happened was that the state took control so it was more like state capitalism, much like China is now.
The wealth transfer didn't happen from the burgois/capitalists to the workers but to the ruling party,that's how you got wealthy in those states you became a party man.
in short those countries were about as communist as Nazis were socialist
Lemmy was founded by a Communist, and Communism in theory is focused on creating a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society via Worker ownership of the means of production. It's fairly easy to see why Lemmy, a platform built on decentralization and a rejection of the profit motive, appeals to leftists like Communists.
Additionally, most Communists practice Materialism, and analyze historical events and structures on the basis of their material conditions. Rather than believing tools have mystical properties that corrupt the minds of those that collectively own them, they look at why historical examples of Socialism have turned out the way they did, and seek to learn from them.
Nobody in any serious number seriously wants a dictatorship with an absolute state.
There’s no arguing about communism on Lemmy. I already know what that other reply says and I only read half of the first sentence.