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[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 79 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I swear bro the next capitalism actually works, bro trust me, bro without capitalism you wouldn't have iphones bro.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

No no no you don't get it bro, what we have right now is adjective capitalism, that's very different from real capitalism. Bro if we had real capitalism things would be so nice

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

bro i promise, with social democracy capitalism is equalitarian. yes bro i promise. bro, no more oppression! please don’t look at the global south

[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 days ago

bro capitalism is the best we've got, trust me bro despite its flaws it's the only one that works bro, bro just accept this as truth, bro don't question it bro.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Global South wouldn't be a fair example since you'd have to factor in historical (and current) exploitation by Western nations. This tends to bolster corruption by having leaders sell out their population to align with Western prerogatives, enriching themselves in the process.

The social democracies in these nations is generally an attempt to protect the populace from Western capitalism moreso than domestic capitalism.

One example would be when the US overthrew the Shah in Iran back in the 50s because they socialized ownership of their oil reserves (previously owned through exploitation by a Western coporation). They staged a coup d'etat to install a pro Western leader so that the Western exploitation could continue. This inevitably led to the Iranian revolution, playing a significant role in Iran's current state as a theocracy.

The Global South, particularly South America, has countless of examples of this. The term banana republic is used to describe this very situation.

This is by no means an indictment on Western culture, just that the global rich will inevitably be in a position to manipulate the global not-so-rich for their own gain. Western nations are the global bourgeoisie.

Nordic nations are a better example of social democracies as they are not subject to the same type of meddling.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago

oh yea i agree with you, my point was that western socdem nations (like scandinavia, for example) still exploit/depend on the exploitation of the global south

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love the iphone thing because they are literally all manufactured in the most successful socialist country still existing.

[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, and the most capitalist part in them is the outrageous price tag and planned obsolescence. But yeah, keep talking about "muh technological development"

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget privatizing an IP that was only made possible through government funded research. Literally the only "innovation" jobs made was taking a bunch of existing tech and being like, "what if we made a media player that is also a phone with a touch screen"

And don't get me started on how much I fucking hate touch screens. Whoever decided all cash registers should be touch screen only and took away my 10-key is going to beg for me to kill them once I am done with them.

[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stealing other peoples' work and selling it as your own for your profit, the sacred art of the capitalists (it just works!)

Yeah, I work as a bartender and have occasionally had to deal with register/payment terminal combos that are basically just Android based devices with a receipt printer. I hate them, because it's completely possible to swipe up and close the app, or double press the unlock button and open the camera, or accidentally input something and trying to undo anything without starting over is a pain 'cause the buttons are too small. And occasionally those things will just not work, and the battery drains real fast.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago