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[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee -5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The best you can do is control it for a time.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

No, sorry, this is incorrect. There are much more efficient and fair modes of production out there. Case in point would be Cuba, or China. The leaps and bounds they've made in spite of the largest and most murderous economic power in the world trying to sabotage them every step of the way should be evidence enough of that.

[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee -3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The most efficient mode of production doesn’t really matter if you want your economy to thrive, helping the working class does, and China is now better at than than the US. That’s why they’re doing well, not because they’re less capitalist. Capitalism can help the working class more than hurt it just as easily as not.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry but here again you're just wrong on a factual level. China is not capitalist. Read whatever Cowbee writes, they're usually good at explaining things.

[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee -3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

There are no capitalists in China, China itself is the capitalist.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

No, it makes dollars!

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

You're a very entertaining poster

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I think I see the confusion. A capitalist is someone who owns a significant amount of capital. China obviously has capitalists. Liberalism is the philosophy of capitalism. China does have liberals, but there's been some pushback over the last decade or so.

[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee 0 points 4 hours ago

Since Tiananmen Square.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago