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We all have opinions on how to procedurally get someone started using Linux. To mixed effect. I wonder if we could be more successful if we paid closer attention to the machine between the seat and the keyboard. What mindsets can we instill in people that would increase the likelihood they stick with it? How would we go about instilling said mindsets?

I have my own opinions I will share later. I don't want to direct the conversation.

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[–] oo1@lemmings.world 3 points 1 day ago

Mindset / traits

-Experimental mindset - why not try it out. (Doesn't look for reasons not to try it out).

-Likes computers/ maths intrinsically (a bit), rather than just uses them.

-Ruined some toys / electronics / appliances in their house because "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is". or just, " Well it has screws, so it's obviously supposed to come apart".

-Prepared to accept that free or cheaper stuff might be adequate. (price is not necessarily a signal of quality)

-Less afflicted by sunk cost - "I already kow how to use windows, or at leady i would if they didnt keep changing stuff".

-They think Excel is shit for anything but a few basic small tables and know they should be using a proper database and/or code rather than insane fornulae and the odd bit or garbled vba vs the "I am a master of excel, and i love it because , look, i can coerce it to do all this cool stuff , excel can do EVERYTHING if you're as good at it as me. Nobody needs anything else to do anything. "

-Seen enough BSOD that they've got nothing left to lose.

As for change: Number 1 is India by miles, so keep India growing I guess. So outwith India . . .

I don't know how many of these are intrinsic vs malleable. I don't think linux desktop (as per current mainstream linux distros) will ever be very widespread. Unless it is packaged into something very sanitised like chrome os, android, steam deck os. or like macos did with BSD.

Create a few enthusiasts maybe by give kids more toys like cheap knock-off lego, and real tools, less pokemon apps. Raspberry pi might be a gateway drug - shame its moved up the price scale. piZeroW2 is still pretty cheap and runs a more or less usable debian/LXDE - for basic stuff. Better to be using GPIO to do fun stuff with motors, gears, pulleys, sensors, solenoids even just blinkys.

Per the last two, that's mostly up to MS to help. You can get some milage taking someones excel that theyre proud of, cut the calculation time in half within excel (to prove you know what you're talking about), then tell them excel is shit, this still too slow/inefficient/unmaintainable/unscaleable , there are better ways. PSA - A lot of people will react badly to that method, so learn a few basic self defense blocks first or do that stuff over videoconference. I think this needs to be developed into a more sensitive implementation of the D.E.N.N.I.S system. Maybe that is what bill gates already did to 1 million corporate procurement teams?