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In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think sooner or later open source cars will be a thing. The problem (well, it's a good thing) is that cars need to pass inspection to be road ready. But not bike-like vehicles.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago

Well if it's an inspection issue, you'll be able to have an inspection mode if you're a clever programmer.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This might shock you but cars where open source for years. Did you think those super detailed shop manuals anyone could buy where not intended to be used to work on the car? How about the massive aftermarket and any and all hot rods? This idea that you can't fuck with you own stuff because its got a computer in it for "safety" is relatively new. Does no one else remember hooking a laptop up to the old ECUs and modifying how the engine works?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You can absolutely fuck with your car and install after market parts. But your car still needs to pass a minimum level of road safety. That's for the common good. I mean things like having correct lights, crumple zones, brakes, mirrors etc. Now if you want to make a car that runs on used kit hen scraps I totally think you should. We should own. Own devices including their computer system. But I don't just the average Joe with the parts that keep me safe from them.

Also, this might not shock you, but cars also used to suck in many ways. Not everything from the past is good.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

That’s for the common good

The issue is normalizing the concept that you do not get to control what you paid for. Responsibility has not changed, you can drive your car into a crowded park and would still be guilty of it regardless of how stock it is. If you mod your stuff to be dangerous that would be a crime. In this case would you say that remote starting your car from your phone somehow is a public safety issue? At least if you jailbroke it to work on your own network?