I sometimes think of this when leftists, particularly tankies, attack (presumably all) non-far-right non-leftists for dithering, or allegedly dithering, on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict;

but yeah, Joe Biden was/is bad for supporting Israel. Ditto Harris, Bill Maher, and Fetterman.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whataboutism

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I suppose some of it, yes; but still, maybe tankies shouldn't generalize too much.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You say, generalising

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Yes, I suppose.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And just to be clear, we're not attacking them for "dithering" on the Palestine genocide (not "conflict", genocide); we're attacking them for actively and consistently supporting the genocide. The idea that they're just "dithering" is a lie liberals tell themselves so they can keep supporting genocidal fascists without feeling bad about themselves.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So according to you, there are no non-leftists who oppose the genocide of Palestinians.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You know somebody has completely run out of arguments when they start doing the "So according to you , [something that in no way resembles anything say said]" thing.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll take that as a "Yes, no non-leftists oppose the genocide of Palestinians."

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OK. I can't stop you from ignoring what I said and making up your own unrelated statement in your imagination.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll put it in question form.

Do you believe that there are no non-leftists who oppose the genocide of Palestinians?

Do you believe that there are liberals who oppose the genocide of Palestinians?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is prompting you to ask me these questions? Because it seems like you're just trying to derail. I could start asking you completely unrelated questions as well, but it would just be wasting time.

(Incidentally, my answers are no and yes, respectively, but I don't intend to discuss further on this unrelated tangent without justification.)

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

What is prompting you to ask me these questions? Because it seems like you’re just trying to derail.

I'm trying to understand why you replied with what you replied.

I could start asking you completely unrelated questions as well, but it would just be wasting time.

Ask away.

Incidentally, my answers are no and yes, respectively.

Thank you for answering the questions.

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