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Reality is becoming a George Carlin bit (lemmy.ml)
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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At what point do we admit that it's more humane to just shoot someone in the brain? If you're gonna have a death penalty, it should be dirty and fucked up. Making death penalty too neat and clean, just encourages the states to keep it around. Make the state feel that decision..

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

People used to botch that one all the time. Not everyone shot in the head dies. And now you have a gory mess that's gurgling and trying to scream but keeps breathing and moving for several days. So humane.

And that's not even considering the ethical issues of who pulls the trigger.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's my point, none of it is humane. And you can shoot a person more than once to make sure they're dead, and like I said, the ethics of shooting someone in the head is not different than the ethics of injecting poison into someone, they're both fucked up things to do, no matter how clean you pretend it is

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It definitely didn't come across like that's your point, but I see it now. But no, shooting someone in the head or killing any human being in any way will ever be humane (caveat for assisted suicide in euthanasia, but that's a different can of worms than the death penalty). How humane a given procedure to kill a person is can only be assessed in relative terms with one another. And in that comparison, nitrogen chambers are definitely way less painful and suffering inducing for the victim, as well as, arguably, ethically more acceptable for the people who technically have to set up the process and push the button. But I doubt this would sway legislation one way or the other, as the political discussions rarely touch on how humane the method is.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's why multiple people shoot and you can just shoot twice if it's not deadly enough? Why would you let them survive - for several days no less. Two or three shots in the head are quicker than anything they do so far.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Are you just very cruel and sadistic or are you just ignorant of the history and reality of firing squads? Genuine question.