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[–] dartos@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yeah but capitalism also made reddit great, before making it terrible.

There’s a balance in there somewhere. What we got ain’t it tho.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Reddit was never great lmaoo

It was a pedo networking tool reknowned worldwide for it's jailbate and non-consensual creepshots. These moderators received awards from admins. Then it got too much attention and got a PR workover, burning a woman CEO at the stake to satiate the gamer-fascists before becoming a bland Atlanticist CIA sockpuppet front of bland corporate posts.

At no point during this entire thing did it ever approach anything comparable to greatness

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are you saying you used Reddit for its jailbait etc subs? Cause Reddit was much more than it’s jailbait subs.

[–] dartos@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I meant the platform more than the company.

It’s my favorite format for social media… that’s why I’m on lemmy.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

communism made lemmy so where does that leave us

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess 'a lot of free spare time in a socialized copitalism' made lemmy.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

us-foreign-policy activity = (forProfit) ? "Work" : "Hobby"

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[–] Bobby_DROP_TABLES@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is no balance though, the shit-ification that happened to Reddit is a necessary function of capitalism. What we saw as Reddit at its best was, from a capitalist's perspective, Reddit at its worst. I'm sure you've noticed a similar process taking place in lots of other areas as well.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

What we saw as Reddit at its best was, from a capitalist's perspective, Reddit at its worst.

And capitalists will allow this "at its worst" phase in order to capture the market, before squeezing it. This pattern is consistent in many industries.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean the stages of economic transition have been "fuedalism->capitalism-> socialism" as each one is progressively more efficient and supercedes the previous.

[–] dartos@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I may be wrong, but I don’t see socialism and capitalism as hard opposites.

I see capitalism and communism are like hard opposites with socialism somewhere in between.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (20 children)

Capitalism is the state controlled by the capital owners with the workers repressed.

Socialism is the state controlled by the workers with the capital owners repressed.

They are literally hard opposites. One is a bourgeoise-state and the other is a proletarian-state.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Capitalism is where everything is owned by an individual

Socialism is where only the means of production are owned by the state, but the individual still has private properties

Communism is where everything is owned by the state

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago
[–] spectre@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is not correct, I encourage you to do some more reading about how coats are made if you'd like to understand this better.

[–] Clever_Clover@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

best way I've seen to tell someone to read capital lmao

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[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Okay, well, I've studied everything from all sorts of marxist tendencies to syndicalism to anarchism, to classical economics, and I think you're either using terms wrong or have the wrong idea. Can you define your terms or rephrase what you mean?

I apologize if this is too blunt.

[–] dartos@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So I understand total capitalism as an entirely market driven economy with no government influence

And total communism as an entirely planned and government prescribed economy

And socialism as some of the economy is market driven and some government planned.

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[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah but capitalism also made reddit great

Engineers and designers made it great. Reddit could very well exist without capitalism (see Lemmy). What fucked up Reddit was explicitly capitalist incentives.

[–] dartos@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Lemmy would not have existed without Reddit. Lemmy is a clone of reddit!

Plus reddit put all the work intro attracting users and communities in the first place, before driving them to places like lemmy.