There's still cheap, shitty coffee that's built on modern slavery there's always like mcdo. SB is the same quality ingredients but with knowing how to steam milk + syrups

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A coffee from a coffee shop definitely should be $4 if you want them to ethically source good coffee and have a sustainable business model

I beg to differ. The ethical sourcing is far from most of that cost and very few of those places treat their employees ethically by for example paying them a living wage.

You're probably going to say something about companies having razor thin profit margins, but in case of every company big enough to have public numbers, the official numbers are AFTER artificially deflating their profits for tax avoidance reasons.

With smaller ones, there's simply no way to know for sure unless you're the actual proprietor, but it's HIGHLY unlikely that $4 is the cheapest they can possibly sell ethically sourced coffee for.

[–] noli@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Context: I'm european. I know for sure the people at my local coffee shops are being paid a living wage, cause there's laws for that.

Paying your employees a living wage is included in what I see as "a sustainable business model".

I know the owner of my local coffee shop personally and while they charge €4 or more depending on the coffee you're getting AND they roast their own coffee, so they cut down on the bean costs significantly while generating some extra profits as well by selling the beans, they still aren't "just raking it in" as you make it seem.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

My apologies, I thought you were talking about American coffee shops.

Sounds about right, then.