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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't compare these 2 conflicts at all.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why? Because the west supports the occupied in one and the occupier in the other? Don't forget the west expected Ukraine to be an occupied state with a gorilla insurgency within a few weeks at the start of the conflict.

Edit: because I am getting the expected hate. The Palestinians didn't start out as Hamas. The extremism of Hamas was born out of the lack of action from former moderates. People will always become more extreme when they are met with a lack of action. That goes for the left and the right.

So ask yourself if someone came to your house and told you to leave how angry would you be? If you don't understand this look up the actions of the Israeli settlements.

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because Ukraine is not committing brutal crimes, not lobbing rockets randomly, hoping to kill anyone, civilian or not. Not hoping to eradicate their enemy (that is the stated goal of Hamas). Ukraine government is not in power because of violence, but because they were voted in. Hamas is in power only because they have weapons and other palestinians don't (given to them by other extremist Muslims, who want to see Jews die).

So let me say it again, this conflict is not fucking comparable.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Ukraine is not committing brutal crimes, not lobbing rockets randomly, hoping to kill anyone, civilian or not

Check your sources bias. Control phrase is "cluster munitions, Donetsk". Russia is faaaar from being free of guilt, but, while they have capability to do this to ALL Ukrainian cities, I don't see any footage of landmines all over Kiyv and Lviv. Another check is to listen to chants(e.g. москаляку на гіляку, смерть русні, etc) of each side. This effectively flips your argument upside down.

Definitely not comparable, though, at least that we can agree.