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If Nintendo goes after Pocketpair, then I want to see Atlus going after Nintendo - because on the same grounds that Palworld would be a Pokémon rip-off, Pokémon would be a rip-off of the Megami Tensei series.
I don't think that they will though. Nintendo is greedy but not stupid. It's one thing to go against a Pokémon mod for Palworld, another to go against Palworld itself.
EDIT: I'm addressing what the article says near the end. Refer to "All eyes are on Nintendo and The Pokémon Company to see if the companies take some sort of legal action against Palworld".
EDIT 2: dunno if people here noticed, but the article is only marginally about the mod. The article is mostly about Palworld being allegedly a rip-off of Pokémon. (No, it is not a rip-off, I know.) Read the article and you will see.
They don't even have a legal case to go against Palworld anyway, unless the conspiracy-brains at Twitter are somehow correct about the devs ripping Pokemon models.
You're right that they don't. And yet this "porkyman gonna sue palword lololol" and "palword porkyman ripof lmao" discourse is everywhere in the article, as shown by the following excerpts:
People here are pretending that the article is solely about Toasted Shoes' mod being hit with a C&D or similar. It is not.
About the Twitter idiocy, I mentioned it in the palworld community, but there's no way that they ripped off Pokémon assets. People are making shit up (i.e. assuming) and those sloppy "journalists" are taking it seriously.
How can you possibly be so confident they didn't pull models from Pokemon? It's absolutely a possibility, and frankly seems impossible not to be true when you directly compare the models.
Because I did compare the models, as shown in the reply to your other comment.
Because it is obviously not true if you compare the models, if you have literally any experience of any kind with 3D models
Sounds like you haven't actually looked at any of it then apparently. There's a reason the main people speaking out about it are literally industry professionals. Even my rather meager experience with creating mods and design models for 3D printing is plenty of experience to make those comparisons myself. If you're going to act like you have any knowledge or authority on this subject you should probably have some idea what you're talking about.
"I assume that you're an ignorant" is not an argument.
If you're going to engage in the appeal to authority fallacy, at least do it properly, by naming those "industry professionals" that you are talking about.
Relevant detail: if the models were so obviously copied, the article in the OP would be called "Nintendo sues Palworld over copyright infringement".
"Chrust me" is not an argument.
Hic Rhodes, hic salta. Show it.
https://www.gamesradar.com/game-developers-arent-really-buying-the-similarities-between-palworld-and-pokemon-to-accidentally-create-a-complex-model-mesh-with-so-near-exact-proportions-is-practically-impossible/
Aaaaaaaand the source linked is a X post that doesn't even analyse the models themselves. (Of course, because even from a glance they are clearly different.)
That is not evidence dammit. Show the meshes of the models side-by-side, and point out the parts that were allegedly copied. Having roughly a similar shape is easy to justify by being inspired on the same critters, it is not evidence of copy.
There are two separate comparison videos in that article, as well as the posts from industry figures discussing the comparisons that were uploaded and how damning they are.
HOWEVER. It has come to my attention that the original poster who created those videos edited the Palworld models to make it look more damning. I was going off bad information, and I acknowledge you're correct, there no -valid- evidence Palworld directly stole models.
That said, you have to be a blind to think they aren't shameless Pokemon knockoffs. It goes far beyond mere passing similarities, most pals are assembled from chopped up Pokemon (quite thematically appropriate I suppose). Nintendo certainly thinks so too: https://www.ign.com/articles/the-pokemon-company-makes-an-official-statement-on-palworld-we-intend-to-investigate
It's crazy to assume that just because Nintendo must be perfectly fine with it just because they didn't file a lawsuit the day after the game launched.
Man, thats really funny, thats exactly what I was thinking about you when I read your comments the first time