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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Nah, because as straight people we've never actually faced any hardship because of our orientation. Maybe if the idea that straight people shouldn't exist, if one of the major political parties in my country wanted to legalize electrocuting us for being straight, if most of the major religions said we should be tortured to death, if there were people seriously debating about whether we should be allowed to marry someone of the opposite sex, I'd say that mod would be bigoted

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So intent has nothing to do with it? One is a bigot based solely on the relative hardship two communities have faced. If in gay and want to play a character that reflects my sexuality, I'm not a bigot for making it happen. But if I'm straight and want to play a character that represents my sexuality, and I make that happen, I'm a bigot?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But if I'm straight and want to play a character that represents my sexuality, and I make that happen, I'm a bigot?

Of course not. That's not what happened here, and is irrelevant. Nobody would care about a mod that makes otherwise unromanceable characters romanceable. This mod changed two NPCs for no reason other than the creator doesn't like seeing gay people.

You understand there's a difference between someone making a character gay because they like seeing gay characters, and someone making a character straight because they don't like seeing gay characters, right?

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s not what happened here, and is irrelevant.

Irrelevant to what happened, but not irrelevant to what the poster I was responding to was talking about.

You understand there’s a difference between someone making a character gay because they like seeing gay characters, and someone making a character straight because they don’t like seeing gay characters, right?

Absolutely. You are hitting my point here: intent. If someone is gay and changes it because they don't want to see straight people, that's bigoted too. If someone makes the character straight because they like seeing straight characters, that's not bigoted.

I get that the mod maker is actually a bigot, in not challenging that. I'm challenging the claim that by switching from gay to straight makes you a bigot.

[–] EnderofGames@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m challenging the claim that by switching from gay to straight makes you a bigot.

Please, I would LOVE for you to source this claim

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How could I source it? I challenged an opinion with another opinion.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's called a "straw man argument."

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I'm confused, I don't see how either of us is guilty of straw-maning thus argument.