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The Day Before Sold 200k Units, With 91k Refunds On The Same Day (gamevro.com)
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[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Does this mean that the other 109K wasted their money?

Because I thought, I read somewhere that the developers pulled out. Which I assume means that there will be no fixes dor the known issues.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

109000 copies at $40 minus the 30% steam cut. That's about 3 million dollars they're walking away with.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

LOL, after what, 5-years of dev time? That's a monstrous lose.

Pretend there's only 5 devs, at only $100K/yr. $2.5M in salary, and total payroll costs an employer anywhere from 20-50% more. And then there are benefits. And leadership pay and hardware and hosting fees and software fees and... And if that's all they made, they are seriously underwater.

All together, house and all, I'm about $100,000 in the hole. I'd rather be me than them. :)

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

The devs worked for a promise and a prayer, the 1-2 people who run Fntastic lived off the investors' money for 5 years, with a salary they set for themselves.
The Steam money will go towards what they owe their investors, but it won't be enough.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

According to FNTASTIC all their developers were "volunteers"

[–] Amanduh@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Way more people refunded after the first day lol

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

The company disappeared though, they still let people refund?

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Valve doesn't pay out until the end of the month typically the following month. So yes so long as they meet the policy of 2 hours, and under 2 weeks.

[–] dracs@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I saw someone say that Valve holds back a portion of the revenue to cover potential refunds. If that's true, I wonder if that's calculated dynamically as it sounds like this is a higher than normal refund rate.

[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

With as fast as this happened, Valve likely didn't even cut the first check yet.

[–] Amanduh@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

In addition to what the other people replying to you said this isn't valves first rodeo and when a game is this much of a shitshow valve steps in and waives the normal refund policy (have to refund with < 2hrs and within 2 weeks of buying the game) valve has a reputation to uphold and honestly they do that really well imo

[–] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

They would have, but the publisher has agreed to give refunds to anyone who wants one.

Edit: someone else posted sources but here is another one as well

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/day-publisher-offers-refunds-everyone-103539300.html

[–] illi@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Really? If that's true that would be the most bizzare thing about the whole situation tbh. Not in a bad way though.

Do you have a source?

[–] kick_out_the_jams@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"We are sorry for the fact that the game didn't meet the expectations of the majority of the players," reads a statement from Mytona, noting it's an investor in the game.

"Today we will work with Steam to open up refunds for any players who choose to make a refund. We're in contact with Fntastic regarding the future of the game."

https://twitter.com/mytona_official/status/1734359076690362582

Answer to those who ask for a refund. Mytona and we're currently working with Steam to allow refunds for any player who chooses to request one, regardless of game time. Fntastic received $0 and will receive nothing from The Day Before sales.

https://twitter.com/FntasticHQ/status/1734422905042391160

[–] illi@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

This is absolutely crazy. It's good to see but the whole thing doesn't make any sense to me

[–] Kainsley@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

To clarify, it's the publisher not the Devs. They are also likely victims here.

[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Lol anyone who wants one...imagine not wanting one