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[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip -5 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Any time you have to force or coerce a system onto a population against popular sentiment, it's doomed to fail.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago

That's an interesting but unrelated idea given that all currently existing socialist countries only became socialist because of revolutions that had popular support from all sectors of society except the owners of capital.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that's why we need to abolish private property in the means of productions

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm more in support of socialist revolution to attempt a smooth(er) transition, but eventually yes

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're asking for the impossible bob

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

I don't know, I think they're just confused. Socialist revolution is the transition to the state of society in which private property has been abolished.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

There are zero historical examples of capitalists giving up their power without a fight. The history of the 20th century and the cold war is one of repressive counter-revolutions killing hundreds of millions of people in the global south who tried to build socialism.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which is why capitalist shitholes of the west are now visibly coming apart at the seams.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Exactly. Capitalism was forced on the population, ergo it is doomed to fail.

[–] NeelixBiederman@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

Agreed, capitalism being forced upon us all is doomed to fail, comradestalin-cig

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Socialism has overall largely come into existence in places where it's popular among the people, as it's a proletarian-driven system. The opposite is true of capitalism.