i hope mamdani succeeds and all, but that's literally what happened the last few us presidential elections. electoralism is historically incapable of defeating fascism.

if you are counting on it to fix the us, like all we need is hope and rainbows, i have some bad news for ya.

[+] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Typical all or nothing response. Let’s forget the 535 members of Congress have primaries every 2-4 years so we can complain that ‘it was either Fetterman or Dr. Oz’ when Fetterman beat three primary contenders, two of whom were progressive, in a primary that saw <9% turnout.

If you think abstaining is the solution, why has it only made things worse for the last 40 years?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Nobody says abstaining is the solution. Electoralism in general is not a solution. Organizing, joining working class parties with revolutionary intent, is the only solution.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

and none of that system has solved the issue for us in the various decades it has existed.

you think abstaining is the solution

no i don't, that's not what any of us are arguing for.

why has it only made things worse for the last 40 years

because most people have insisted for that time that voting is the only solution worth pursuing. its not, that system works against us making it one of the least effective solutions.