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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/44874398

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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (19 children)

They need to fire their CEO and get an executive suite that can develop good products and not just copy Google while adding keywords related to "privacy" and "freedoms" in their marketing copytext.

That's the exact same thing as Google.

I say this as long time Proton user and subscriber.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 32 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The difference is that Google scans your private correspondence and can report you to authorities for any reason, legit or not.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That's a fair argument. Although I personally wouldn't put too much emphasis on "can report you to authorities for any reason". That's true of any third party, your local mini-mart can report you to the authorities for any reason, legit or not.

I am referring more to the Lumo LLM initiative. It's a standard LLM pitch with some privacy copytext added on.

While I haven't tried Lumo, I do have experience with smaller cloud LLMs (e.g. Mistral, trying to not use American services) and they tend to be subpar for my work use cases.

I don't see how Lumo will compete with ChatGPT or Gemini (haven't tried Grok for obvious reasons).

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Although I personally wouldn't put too much emphasis on "can report you to authorities for any reason". That's true of any third party

Not true of Proton.

I don't see how Lumo will compete with ChatGPT or Gemini

The same way it competes with all their other products; by making it private and open source.

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