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"merely the captain of the team".
LOL. Ever see the team photos?
The "i voted" is just ๐๐
The fact that the CPSU was under constant danger of infiltration and espionage, and thus needed to be purged, does not contradict Stalin's reported style of leadership as recognized by the CIA in an internal document shared in the meme above. The USSR, throughout its early period (founding until end of World War II), was under constant siege, invasions by capitalist powers, civil war, and active infiltrarion by fascists. These drastic conditions required resolute actions, ones broadly supported both by the party as well as by the general population. We are cutting out the Cold War and Red Scare for the purpose of this conversation, but it wasn't that the siege lessened, it just changed character.
Stalin's style of leadership in meetings was generally recognized as being quiet, allowing other members of the Politburo to speak up first, contemplating, then coming to a firm motion to push for and vote on. This was an effective method of leadership, and is what the CIA is principly describing here as being a "captain of the team." Additionally, Stalin tried to resign no fewer than 4 times, all of which were rejected. Had he abandoned his post against the wishes of the Politburo, there would possibly be political crisis.
I recommend you read Domenico Losurdo's Stalin: History and Critique of a Black Legend. Losurdo challenges the liberal over-demonization of Stalin while shedding accurate light on Stalin's real and genuine shortcomings and mistakes. It's perhaps the best attempt by a modern writer to utilize all of the information we actually have available to sweep away the mountain of Red Scare propaganda to recognize the real Stalin, both good and bad.
Anna Louise Strong on Stalin (re your second paragraph)
Great excerpt! Definitely helps to show his method in action.
I didn't even realise it was an excerpt.
Essay? Article? Don't know what the word for it is, excerpt is wrong though now that I think about it.
No, the source lists it as being pp 46-64 from The Soviets Expected It
Oh, I was accidentally right then, haha. Does that make me double wrong? ๐
Fun fact: these photos were actually doctored by the cia to make him look more like a dictator.
hurr dee durr .ml account
Comes to .ml, removed about the .ml accounts.
It's okay to shit on Stalin on a Marxist-Leninist board, the synthesizer of Marxism-Leninism? MLs don't uphold Stalin as a god, but we also don't engage in historical nihilism, cedeing the historical narrative to the bourgeoisie and liberal historian perspectives. Stalin was no saint, but was far more effective and moral than contemporary leaders like Churchill and Hitler.
It's OK to shit on anyone when what they are saying is counter to, you know, REALITY.
Yes, Stalin was having photographs heavily redacted.
No, it wasn't "the CIA".
I didn't say the USSR didn't doctor photographs to remove purged members. In my reply to your upper level comment, I explained why the purges were necessary and elaborated on their context. Nothing I said in that comment is counter to reality, I even brought sources.
I never said the purges were un-necessary, and I wasn't shitting on your comment.
I was shitting on the comment saying Stalin didn't do it, it was the CIA.
It's CLEAR Stalin did it, both the purges and the photo edits.
Then I'm confused at why you replied to my comment asking why you said it's okay to shit on Stalin on a Marxist-Leninist community. The implication is that MLs are anti-Stalin, but the general consensus hangs around the CPC's evaluation (given first by Mao) that Stalin was about 70% good, 30% bad.
Because this thread got started because I was dunking on someone who tried to say "Naw, naw, it wasn't STALIN, it was the CIA."
Clearly a comment that needed crap.
No, this thread got started when you tried to downplay the CIA's internal memo regarding Stalin's methods of leadership. Others denying that the photos were doctored by the USSR did come in, but after you made the initial comment. Your comment did one good thing though, it served as a nice springboard for me to address and contextualize.
To be fair, I don't doubt that the CIA may have embellished the extent to which photos were doctored as a part of its red scare tactics. Also, you still didn't answer my question about why shitting on Stalin is something you think MLs are supposed to do.
How on earth do you think Stalin would have even accomplished that? By that time the USSR didn't even have access to photoshop - hell nobody outside the cia even knew about it at the time
Shouldn't you be banning yourself for "internet slap fighting" right about now?