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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

When I was a kid I used to joke about school being a prison.

This was back when doors weren't locked during the day and when a friend of mine took a joke hand grenade to school it was confiscated and he was told to pick it up at the end of the day and don't do that again.

Schools have been asymptotically approaching prisons to the point where they will be indistinguishable in the near future.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Agreed. Fuck this shit.

My kids' school is surrounded by a giant chain link fence.

Solve societal.problems leading to higher levels of violence? Nah, let's just lock the kids up during the day - it's for their own protection.

Something is very fucking wrong with people who want to solve our problems this way. Don't let them pretend this is normal or how this shit should he handled. What the fuck are we doing?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Something is very fucking wrong with people who want to solve our problems this way. Don’t let them pretend this is normal or how this shit should he handled. What the fuck are we doing?

It's just psychology.

Suppose you are a bunch of pedophiles and murderers making laws.

You don't want the societal mechanisms against pedophiles and murderers to reach you, but the society has a desire to do to p/ and m/ or against them a certain set of things. So they optimize by doing those things to the opposite part of the society.

The society would want to know what politicians do - they make surveillance against everyone but themselves.

The society would want to thoroughly deal with the pedo problem, preferably IRL where it happens - they direct everything connected to fighting pedos on the communications and the Internet.

The society would want accountability for hierarchy and fewer levers for pressure given to people in important positions, - they make the mandates as fuzzy as possible and create limitations for doing anything outside of hierarchy.

The society would want children to not be taught to obey and fear, and everyone to have privacy, because only in privacy you can say everything you'd want, - they try to turn everything into a surveilled prison camp.

The society would want to be able to answer violence with violence, - they make draconian laws against all kinds of resistance.

The society would want legal clarity, - they try to reduce clarity as much as possible.

It's basically a bunch of people who should be in jail trying to put in jail everyone else purely out of spite. Who are criminals by too many laws, trying to make legal practice as unpredictable and illogical as possible.

Not a new thing really, like people involved in drugs trade getting into institutions for fighting drugs trade.

[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

My school was the same thing as a prison since it was sped ed back in 2005, public schools had it lucky.