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[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

The U.S. military launched a clandestine program amid the COVID crisis to discredit China’s Sinovac inoculation – payback for Beijing’s efforts to blame Washington for the pandemic. One target: the Filipino public. Health experts say the gambit was indefensible and put innocent lives at risk.

Does this threaten "international security", liberal?

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The anti-vax campaign wasn't all that clandestine, though. It might have initially been, but Trump sure let the cat out of the bag with his nonsense.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So what is a clandestine propaganda campaign if not this kind of shit:

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago

Oh no, I agree, it was definitely aimed at the Chinese vaccine at first, but then it turned broadly anti-vax because Trump is too incompetent to keep private things private.

[–] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Okay. So you see what I'm saying then. Imperialists do this stuff.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Okay. So you see what I'm saying then. Imperialists do this stuff.

Except what you have linked was already US State department propaganda

Could you please define imperialism in anywhere between 20 and 1000 words?

[–] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org -5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Imperialism is when a country (or any political group, I guess) pushes their worldview onto others. That's without looking anything up so I may have forgotten some aspect.

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Okay, I looked it up. I agree with the definition I found that says it's more about exerting power than just "worldview". That seems like a better definition.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

? imperialism is when a country or group exerts power?

[–] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes? I don't know where this thread is going.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This thread is going towards the conclusion that you've adopted a definition of imperialism that is so broad as to be unworkable, because it treats all political violence as being the same thing.

[–] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Okay. I don't know what else to say.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago

Okay. I don't know what else to say.

No need to say anything, you just need to read books.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You should probably backpedal on this before you start framing Israel-Palestine as an interimperialist war

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago

What a bizarre definition. Apparently any activist group is an empire.