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Churchill was a racist piece of shit.
So are people who disparage entire nationalities for the actions of a few.
I've never done anything to you or India; So can you explain to me why I should get fucked?
It was more than "a few". You can get fucked for downplaying the scale of the atrocities the british committed. The entire european economy is based on the exploitation of the global south. You can get fucked for tone-policing the anger that causes.
Ah gotcha, so a newborn in the local hospital is responsible for the atrocities committed by a man who died 60 years ago, seems logical.
I'm not downplaying anything, I'm pointing to the fact that your anger is misdirected. There are many British people that have had absolutely no say or action in any of what you've stated, yet you claim they should get fucked for no reason other than where they're born.
Currently alive English people are responsible for not prosecuting Tony Blair after the Chilcot Report. Tony Blair is still alive. Get on it.
Yeah your right, Scotland, Ireland and Wales had no say, not fuck Britain, fuck England
He is 100% responsible for the actions of his ancestors because he benefits from it. If Indians have to bear the fruits of the sufferings of their ancestors, so do the British.
Return all the money and artifacts, adjusted to current valuations. Apologise in UN. Execute all your monarchy in public. Then we will start to get even.
I didn’t see anyone rejecting the spoils of the plunder.
This is the same bullshit argument that is being made by the British right now about Gaza - being complicit the whole time and then trying to PR your way out of it by all of a sudden planning to declare Palestine a state.
Ah so thats your basis for responsibility, not action, but circumstances.
What if that British newborn was born to Indian parents? are they now both responsible and a victim of their own doing?
There are plenty here who agree with you, unfortunately they're too busy trying to survive the same persecutions you're angry at them for supposedly perpetrating. The working class in the UK have absolutely no say in any of what you're campaigning about; but your narrative of "fuck British people because they were born British" does nothing but alienate them from your cause.
It becomes a case of "damned if I do, damned if I don't"
Yes, the same working class who was not starved to death because they got food from a famine struck India. They could have easily denied eating the food and let their children starve, be the bigger person.
Ethics have never mattered to the British (and most of the world to be fair) when it benefits them.
I can't speak for the actions of people that died a century before I existed of course, but I can near enough guarantee that neither I, nor any of my fellow working class citizens have caused any famines in India. (I say near enough; because for all I know there could be some obscure despot running around who just so happens to be from a working class village in Scotland or some shit).
I wholeheartedly agree with the last statement. It is a human condition ultimately; we're seeing the same situation out in the states, where a lot of immigrant families voted in favour of tighter immigration (the "fuck you I got mine" mentality). I suppose you could argue it's due to Americanisation of the people who have migrated, but to me it just highlights the fact that morality isn't based on nationality. I believe brandishing any nationality/ethnicity or race as anything other than human only perpetuates 'us and them' mentalities, and I believe it's by design.
Until the world wakes up and realises it's not north Vs south or east Vs west; but rather rich Vs poor, nothing will change.
....which describes the British vs. India you fuck. The UK plunders the global south, then uses those resources to build the infrastructure you use and the food you buy.
"Racist towards the British" my ass.
It describes a subset of the British population.... Which is what this entire conversation has been about.
The rich get it, that's why Epstein island has people like prince Andrew as well as sheiks from Dubai; affluence has no borders, and they use borders to keep everyone else fighting among one another, rather than dealing with them directly.
And you're a perfect example of just how effective it is.
Evidence of rich people in India: https://www.forbesindia.com/lists/rich-list-2024/.
Evidence of poor people in Britain: https://www.politics.co.uk/reference/food-banks/.
Yet according to you, the people at these food banks owe those 100 people who have a combined wealth of $1.1 trillion dollars, due to respective nationalities.
You gonna pretend your entire life hasn't been built on a framework that raped 90% of the planet?
The irony of an Aussie saying this is palpable.
When are you going to stop the rampant and ongoing persecution of the aboriginal population and the intentional erosion of their way of life?
There's nothing I can do about my ancestors' actions; but you have a real opportunity to enact the change you feel our ancestors should have done at home.
Actually doing quite a lot in my capacity. Sovreignty was never ceded.
What are you doing to press for the return of cultural items illegally acquired and held in the UK?
I mean you're demanding i do my bit to dismantle a system (which I actually very definitively did in a recent vote), surely you can write the British museum a nasty letter.
Or did it simply never occur to you?
I'm glad to hear it. I am doing everything in my capacity to help with the repatriation of the empire's illegally pillaged artifacts.
Admittedly that's not a great deal currently though, most of my spare time is spent helping out at the local food bank, as there's a bit of a malnourishment crisis going on in the UK ATM (as I'm sure there is most places tbh. The disparity between rich and poor seems to have grown exponentially since covid and the job market is only compounding the issue).
You guys should have ceded from the crown eons ago; if I had the choice I certainly would. You won't find much love for the monarchy among the working class in Britain.
We got ourselves an old fashioned nice off! Keep it going!
Virtues have been signaled. Two saints enter, one lemming leaves.
Trying, but the monarchist cucks keep drowning out the voices of those of us who want out.
Sadly I suspect the US implosion means more and more are going to cling to mummy britain to save us defensewise despite the fact that historically does not work out so well for us...