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How often do I have to buy a new pixel if I fully degoogle with GrapheneOS? A support question (lemmy.ml)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/34045100

still deciding to fully degoogle with GOS or muddling through with what I have (proprietary, data grabbing and bloated).

To understand the question, compare with my main hardware with debian on it: a regular notebook I bought in 2016 and I've used heavily for all kinds of stuff: working, writing papers, downloading and playing media including AV1, editing audio, torrenting...

One of the best investments I ever made, considering what I paid and how prices nowadays are. Debian offers regular upgrades and I don't have to check if my hardware is going to support the software on a level comparable with android devices (GOS only runs on pixels, other open-source, privacy focused Android operating systems have similar hardware restrictions).

I want this kind of ROI for the device I buy and the software I use, but I don't know if that's possible:

GOS drops support for older pixels but I don't know how many years any particular device is supported by GOS: 3 years? not enough. There's no way I'm buying a new pixel every 3 years. I'd even consider 6 years restrictive.

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[–] jerb@lemmy.croc.pw 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Android development isn't closed. The Pixels no longer have public device trees provided by Google, but no other device manufacturer did that either. It was a nice to have, but Graphene still got a fully functional Android 16 build out without them within a few weeks, and the device trees aren't why they build for Pixels, it's the security features.

[–] ominouslemon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's another issue. AOSP is effectively being developed in a closed environment, with only the final code being published on github after release. So AOSP if effectively not being developed in the open any more

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The devicetrees between Android versions is effectively the same. They define the hardware

We won't know the impact until they try to bring up the Pixel 10