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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

People are probably not feeling better under communism. But yes, the state of the world is just super depressing. We have zero good world leaders, and no future to look forward to.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah, I'm pretty sure people in China are feeling pretty good about their country's development:

The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf

From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world's total poverty population would have risen) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/China%E2%80%99s-Economic-Growth-and-Poverty-Reduction-Angang-Linlin/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b880f54b9c77a4

From 2010 to 2019 (the most recent period for which uninterrupted data is available), the income of the poorest 20% in China increased even as a share of total income. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.DST.FRST.20?end=2019&locations=CN&start=2008

By the end of 2020, extreme poverty, defined as living on under a threshold of around $2 per day, had been eliminated in China. According to the World Bank, the Chinese government had spent $700 billion on poverty alleviation since 2014. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/world/asia/china-poverty-xi-jinping.html

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 10 months ago

Very interesting, thank you. Going well for China it seems...

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

I know two people who grew up in a kibbutz. One says it was the best time, one says it was the worst time. You can likely do the same for any form of government or economy.