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All the troubles with Debian upgrade (feddit.org)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by arty@feddit.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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So a new major version of Debian has been released, and now I see a lot of complaints about various issues stemming from an upgrade. I do not remember this many after an LTS Ubuntu version. I don't want to rush to conclusions like "Ubuntu has money for better quality assurance". I can easily come up with explanations for why these statistics can be skewed, like "Ubuntu-loving plebeians do not come to complain to elite Lemmy users about their puny problems". I'm curious what you think?

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[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I use Debian-Testing, so I never go from a major release to another, and it's very stable that way. But yes, a big upgrade is never smooth with Debian, even if Debian itself is very stable (when installed from scratch). I think the solution is a clean install every 2 years. Or use Debian-Testing, so things don't blow up from a small release to another. Even Linux Mint is not very stable from a major release to another (meaning, from one LTS to another). But Ubuntu is more stable between interim releases, but also not very stable between LTS releases.

So either you go with a "stable-ish" rolling release like Debian-Testing (which in my opinion is the most stable rolling release distro), or you re-install every 2 years.

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Not my experience. I'm managing 6 different clients and around 200 servers with debian 11-13. Update problems are most of the times caused by incompatible packages / repos. Other then that and a few times some changes in configuration files with new options I hardly ever have problems.

I don't think you have to reinstall your system every two years, you just need to be careful to not create a frankendebian by adding repos villy vanilly and you are good to go.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I didn't have problem updating debian stable to a next version. I got problems when I jumped 2 stables at once. Which was to be expected.

[–] arty@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thank you, these are enlightening observations!

From what you see online, is this release on par with the previous ones?

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

yeah it's a good one

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah! It's got Plasma 6! And labwc!