Linux

57549 readers

821 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.
No misinformation
No NSFW content
No hate speech, bigotry, etc

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 6 years ago

MODERATORS

AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml

nooter692@lemmy.ml

MarcellusDrum@lemmy.ml

cypherpunks@lemmy.ml

cyclohexane@lemmy.ml

d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz

All the troubles with Debian upgrade (feddit.org)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by arty@feddit.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

87 comments fedilink hide all child comments

So a new major version of Debian has been released, and now I see a lot of complaints about various issues stemming from an upgrade. I do not remember this many after an LTS Ubuntu version. I don't want to rush to conclusions like "Ubuntu has money for better quality assurance". I can easily come up with explanations for why these statistics can be skewed, like "Ubuntu-loving plebeians do not come to complain to elite Lemmy users about their puny problems". I'm curious what you think?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] krimson@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No experience with debian 13 yet, but I once upgraded a server from 7 to 12 without a single issue which was quite amazing.

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Same, I have servers I've continuously upgraded from Debian 6 to 12 over the years, without reinstallation. Has gone without issue.

[–] arty@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Do you think servers have it easy compared to personal computers? No pesky audio/video cards, bluetooth, etc…

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Maybe. Now that I think about it, I have an Intel NUC running as a TV computer that has gone the same route, from Debian 6 to 12 without reinstallation. Still actively using it but thinking of retiring it only because the hardware is a bit weak in this small NUC from 2013.

[–] fratermus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you think servers have it easy compared to personal computers? No pesky audio/video cards, bluetooth, etc…

My server upgrade to Trixie had no issues. That's good because it's several thousand miles away on another continent.... My laptop had a few burps with ranger, jekyll, and autokey that required googling.

my experience so far

I see a lot of complaints about various issues stemming from an upgrade. I do not remember this many after an LTS Ubuntu version

Selection bias? I suspect Debian folks are more likely to notice problems and start looking for bug reports, talking about it, etc. Like my dorky blog entry above.

[–] arty@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Thank you! This selection bias was one of the possibilities I’ve considered…

[–] arty@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wait, like in one step from 7 to 12? That would be amazing indeed!

[–] krimson@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, one version at a time. Took only an hour or so.

[–] arty@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago

This is pretty impressive anyway