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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 41 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (18 children)

Gaming will always take the lead—gamers are usually quick to chase the newest and shiniest things. Bluefin/Aurora adoption takes a bit longer because developers have to adjust their workflows, and there’s still this odd stigma around atomics. People assume you “can’t do things” on an atomic distro that you can on a traditional one, when in reality it’s mostly the same—just a slightly different approach in certain areas. Like with Nix, once it clicks, the pros far outweigh the cons. Personally, Bluefin has made me a more organised and efficient developer.

I can't upload the images for some reason but here's the current numbers for the ublue spins

  • Bazzite: 26k users -> bazzite.json
  • Bluefin: 1.9k users -> bluefin.json
  • Bluefin LTS: 40 users -> bluefin-lts.json
  • Aurora: 1.3k users -> aurora.json
[–] Soot@hexbear.net 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (11 children)

once it clicks, the pros far outweigh the cons

I would love to hear a pro about atomic distros that isn't some vague platitude about security or stability. I have zero security/stability problems on my 'normal' Fedora.

As someone who has steadfastly avoided atomic distros because it sounds like an arseache and the last thing I want is more busywork. Convince me to switch!

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

I don't think I've even tinkered with Bazzite since installing it. It just works. You do have to get used to container workflows and using flathub but its a marginal amount of overhead for improved security. Bonus points: you can lazy install lots of apps with distrobox, for example you can install .deb files, .rpm files, pull from the AUR, its no biggy, and its all preconfigured and easy to setup.

It's also nice to be able to rebase your distro whenever you want to try out different spins and features, makes inter-fedora atomic distro hopping easy without destroying your configs.

[–] Soot@hexbear.net 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks for the response, though up to this sentence I'm hearing extra busywork and slow/annoying containerising, in exchange for vague security platitude and a tool which I can already use.

It's also nice to be able to rebase your distro whenever you want to try out different spins and features, makes inter-fedora atomic distro hopping easy without destroying your configs.

I'm interested by this. Is there a uniqueness to Atomic setups such that you can (more easily) keep your user partition, GNOME configs, etc. and swap out the Fedora distro underneath?

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep, I can for example rebase from Bazzite to Secureblue and keep all of my configs intact for say, KDE. So if a project goes fubar you aren't out of luck and need to reinstall and reconfig linux, its trivial to rebase/"swap distro", its a single command that looks like this

rpm-ostree rebase ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-dx-nvidia:stable

All programs, files, configs, etc are intact in your home directory. I've swapped between user created spins for different DEs like Cosmic and so on, whats cool is its all preconfigured to run well under bazzites kernel. Image based upgrades are also very nice, theres inevitably config drift that messes with performance or updates can break your setup on other distros, image based means the devs tweak every interaction and push it all to you with the least effort possible on your part.

[–] Soot@hexbear.net 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

This is very cool, and I can suddenly see atomic being useful for certain circumstances. Won't be using it for my personal computer main driver, but hopping/resetting this is easily attracts me so. Thank you!

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

rpm-ostree is pretty nifty in general, it functions like git so it reapplies each of your configs over what the devs do each time you upgrade, leading to as little config drift and broken upgrades as possible. each upgrade feels like a fresh install imo

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