Problem is we need vendor like pinephone maybe fairphone,which will able to run give us freedom what to run on device hunting and seeking for vendor which allowing to unlock bootloader and then install custom os it sleepery slope because it's not know how longer they will let to do it

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

i have the OP just incase, but im hearing they want to soft-lockdown it too. is fairphone even available outside the EU? in the us.

[–] Twoafros@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If they lock bootloaders, whats the best way to force it work even the vendors don't want it to?

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was wondering this awhile ago too. There are ways but it's pretty hardcore stuff from what I can tell. It's basically a lost cause at that point. Some solutions involve using $30,000+ laser machines to manipulate the hardware physically and cause glitches in the locking. But even then the devices have self-destruct mechanisms to detect tampering. Not like the phone explodes, but they self-destruct the cryptographic keys needed to unlock the bootloader, and then you're stuck trying to brute force in by guessing keys, which most likely will take literally a million years.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

thats pretty aggressive to unlock it, i dont think non-tech saavy people will go for it.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The only way to bypass a forced bootloader lock is to find a bootrom exploit. It's basically like jailbreaking an iPhone or a console at that point.

Note, the iPhone hasn't had a working jailbreak in years. Samsung phones in the US also haven't been able to be unlocked in years.

Android would be even harder because of how fragmented the market is. There are many different phones from many different manufacturers.

[–] anon5621@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

None,we fucked up.that why I don't wanna non arm non RISC currently see on desktop

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 13 points 1 day ago

PostmarketOS is the biggest player. UBPorts (formerly Ubuntu Phone) is another. And of course there are lots of projects like Plasma Mobile, Nemo, or Mobian.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

FUTO has some good initiatives to follow.