Linux phones are still behind android and iPhone, but the gap shrank a surprising amount while I wasn’t looking. These are damn near usable day to day phones now! But there are still a few things that need done and I was wondering what everyone’s thoughts on these were:
1 - tap to pay. I don’t see how this can practically be done. Like, at all.
2 - android auto/apple CarPlay emulation. A Linux phones could theoretically emulate one of these protocols and display a separate session on the head unit of a car. But I dont see any kind of project out there that already does this in an open-source kind of way. The closest I can find are some shady dongles on amazon that give wireless CarPlay to head units that normally require USB cables. It can be done, but I don't see it being done in our community.
3 - voice assistants. wether done on device or phoning into our home servers and having requests processed there, this should be doable and integrated with convenient shortcuts. Home assistant has some things like this, and there’s good-old Mycroft blowing around out there still. Siri is used every day by plenty of people and she sucks. If that’s the benchmark I think our community can easily meet that.
I started looking at Linux phones again because I loathe what apple is doing to this UI now and android has some interesting foldables but now that google is forcing Gemini into everything and you can’t turn it off, killing third party ROMS, and getting somehow even MORE invasive, that whole ecosystem seems like it’s about to march right off a cliff so its not an option anymore for me.
I switched to GrapheneOS like 4 years ago and at first I was bummed that I could no longer tap my phone to pay. But it's fine. I still go out with my wallet in my pocket, so it's no problem to just tap my bank card really... I'll take privacy over convenience thanks
I havent taken my wallet with me in years. I prefer tap to pay as it is more secure than a physical card which can get lost or stolen.
Hahahahahaha. No.
This is the most unhelpful kind of comment where you basically shame someone for having preferences. Why people feel the need to make their callousness public instead of just shutting up, I never know.
Security can be measured objectively. It's important to call out misinformation.
How is a disposable token locked behind passwords and/or biometrics, remotely erasable, unique between each vendor a transaction takes place in inferior to…..a string of unchanging digits in a physical card?
You didn’t “call out misinformation.” You laughed at a differing opinion. That’s not an argument. That’s a noise.
Seriously, the Linux community has tons of helpful, super smart people, but mixed in with them are these obnoxious snobs like you that just embarrass the rest of us.
Because phone passwords are usually short and biometrics are public knowledge (usernames, not passwords)
You have a trade off between security and convenience. Phones are devices made for convenience. They are insecure, by design.
So better to have NO passwords or biometrics at all then? Your argument doesn’t make sense.
Device passwords should be 20 characters minimum.
I recommend attending a free opsec training course.
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How long is the password on a credit card, or the tap to pay on a credit card.
Credit cards require you to give your private key to someone else for a CNP transaction. They have always been insecure lol
Yes, I am aware, I just want to point out you started this thread by replying "hahahaha no" to someone saying tap to pay on their phone was more secure than a cc
Yeah tap to pay is worse. They're both horrible.
Quick is trolling
either that or they have amnesia
No. There are secure payment methods. Credit cards and tap to pay are both terribly insecure.
Ok, say I wanna go pay at a café near me that doesn't accept cash, what do I do?
Contact the local government. Its probably illegal for them not to accept cash.
No it's not, now answer my question please.
Huh. I've heard there are countries that exist where companies are legally allowed to refuse cash.
If that really is the csse, then I guess your best option is to donate to your local lobbiest group to fix your (lack of) government regulations.
So now you are changing your argument? That was not your original claim.
Nope
Eh, both are about the same level of security, as long as you take the correct actions.
Lose a card? Freeze/Deactivate it and call your bank.
Lose your phone? Use Google/Apple/FindMyDevice (Degoogled) to either find it, or nuke whatever data you had on your phone (hopefully you made backups).