Imagine shilling for the modern American and European states like they’re anything anything like the ideals of socialism. Lmao. Ah yes, a neo-liberal oligarchic state ala America and a mass-surveilled and thought-crime regulating state ala the EU, what a worker’s paradise.

Here’s a question for your NATO handlers, if your ideas are so good, why do you feel the need to limit your citizen’s access to affordable healthcare? Why did they feel the need to treat the working class in such a way?

Because they have the same mentality as the uber religious, they think their beliefs are the one truth, but yet they’re terrified they can’t stand up to new information.

Don’t get me wrong, China might have its small issues, but at least they prioritize collective welfare over individual greed.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

your NATO handlers

You've definitely absorbed some propaganda. It's anyone's guess whether it came from Russia or China though. There is literally no reason to have a problem with NATO.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

NATO is a millitary alliance of the world's imperialist powers. Just like the cops are the thugs protecting capital, NATO are the fascists protecting imperialism. NATO destroyed Libya and Yugoslavia, and has launched terrorist attacks.

[+] shiroininja@lemmy.world -8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Small issues . Lmao ok. Tell me what the the villages are like in rural China. Have the collective welfare trickled down to them yet?

And open access to information via the internet and open speech are one of the main pillars of a successful society, and neither states have that. Who cares if you’re my comrade of I can’t speak against you if need be or have the ability to refute your information with research.

China has one of the fastest growing numbers of millionaires in the world yet its farmers and factory workers are still poor as shit, how’s that collectivism? It’s just state capitalism

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The gap between rural and urban development has long been acknowledged and is already something worked on. The famous poverty eraducation campaign was focused on just that. Read The Metamorphosis of Yuangudui to see what that looks like in practice.

Secondly, the speech of capitalists and western media is restricted, but citizens speak to each other freely. The purpose of the control on western and capitalist propaganda is to develop independence and not let the west set the narrative.

Lastly, purchasing Power in 2022 was 25 times higher than 1978. This process is continuous. Further, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, it's a socialist country. You need to turn off Fox News and actually look at what's happening in China right now.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

This is a tier 4 city in China. Which is far down the development ladder and considered poor.

https://youtu.be/kZon-AlmJbM

The vast majority of Chinese live in cities like this or better. Saying that there are still poor villages, well I give you this

https://youtu.be/fI30F0Vt88E

Kensington Philadelphia is so drug infested people walk around like zombies. Does China have poor areas like that? Actually no, even the poorest villages aren't that bad.