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What is the current state of Matrix? (feddit.org)

submitted 1 day ago by majoru@feddit.org to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Some years ago, I hosted my own matrix server for a few months. I'm an experienced self-hoster, but I remeber that Matrix was paticularly hard to host, requiring weird proxy rules, DNS adjustments, federation never worked reliably and push notifications never worked at all. I ditched the project soon because I also had no real use for it. However, I recently had some ideas where a Matrix server would be useful again. Has anyone attempted to install it recently and can tell me whether the situation has improved? Also, which server do you recommend? There still is synapse but I found it paticularly complicated to host. Dendrite is now archived and the current fork seems to be tuwunel which doesn't seem to be under very active development.

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[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well Discord started as a replacement for IRC and TeamSpeak/Mumble, then began to add more and more things and got used as a forum replacement and everything went down the hill. Why not going back to the roots? We had fucking IRC scripts for matchmaking in Q3CTF.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Discord has quite a few good features that IRC doesn't. I will agree that it being used as a replacement for a forum, while also being unsearchable, is amazingly stupid. However, it's used by almost everyone for a reason, and to ignore that (if you were to develop and alternative) ensures you won't succeed. Yeah, we don't need every feature from Discord, but easy voice/text/video chats, image/file sharing, and all the other useful things are required. Yeah, we can probably lose the emotes and crap and be fine.

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't mind going back to IRC roots if it could be made more user friendly and integrate voice and video chat.

Good UX/UI goes a long way to make it so non-technical people can join and strengthen the network.